RE: All GNOME Shell Developers.

[Owen Taylor <otaylor redhat com>]

On Fri, 2009-12-18 at 17:04 -0500, Mark Curtis wrote:
> Taking one person's impressions and then saying the whole idea is
> great makes a lousy argument as well.
> This reminds me of the recent topic Re: Interface Changes
> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-shell-list/2009-December/msg00052.html I'd love to hear what more devs thought.
> 
In general, it's really hard to sustain a conversation about whether the
overview is like getting out of your car to change the car radio station
or not. Sure, you can make that analogy, and it's valid in some ways.
But there's also a lot of ways its *not* like getting out of your car:

 - You can do it in a few seconds
 - It doesn't involve getting out of your seat
 - There's no car involved

In fact, it's generally really hard sustain a discussion about whether
the basic ideas of the shell are great or they suck, because like any
major change, they are going to be great in some cases and in some ways,
and are going to suck in some cases and some ways.

More interesting things to discuss:

 - In what cases does GNOME Shell work less well?

 - How could the GNOME Shell ideas be adapted and extended to
   work better in those cases?

 - What alternate ideas would address the issues that the GNOME shell
   design document starts from? how would you evolve the GNOME shell
   in those directions?

- Owen

> 
> ______________________________________________________________________
> From: sri ramkrishna me
> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 14:01:26 -0800
> Subject: Re: All GNOME Shell Developers.
> To: denis cheremisov net
> CC: gnome-shell-list gnome org; mentalomega googlemail com
> 
> It only took about 1 day for me.  It was very natural for me.  Taking
> one person's impressions and then saying the whole idea sucks makes a
> lousy argument against the gnome-shell concept.
> 
> sri
> 
> On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Денис Черемисов
> <denis cheremisov net> wrote:
>         Few weeks to get comfortable? Man, are you crazy?
>         It's too long and only proves the gnome-shell idea sucks.
>         
>         2009/12/19 Bob Hazard <linuxoflondon googlemail com>
>         
>         
>                 It's actually more useful to someone with only one
>                 workspace because
>                 they tend to have even more overlapping windows.
>                 
>                 It only needs one click to switch windows anyway.  The
>                 top left corner
>                 is a big target you can do a very approximate gesture
>                 to trigger the
>                 zoom without clicking.
>                 
>                 After a while it becomes second nature and I was
>                 surprised that it
>                 feels very old fashioned to go back to a flat desktop.
>                 
>                 Try Docky if you find the transition uncomfortable but
>                 it only takes a
>                 few weeks.
>                 
>                 2009/12/18 Danté Ashton <mentalomega googlemail com>:
>                 
>                 > Hey all.
>                 >
>                 > I've been watching GNOME Shell for a while, but
>                 there is one problem that I
>                 > really can't see being resolved.
>                 >
>                 > How useful is this to someone who uses one desktop?
>                 Just one? Never-mind the
>                 > other one, or three, or four...
>                 >
>                 > Why should I, the user, have to perform three extra
>                 clicks just to do what
>                 > it takes me one to do now?
>                 >
>                 > There has been less video/photo material to consume
>                 then I could safely make
>                 > a judgement on, and if the 'one desktop' problem has
>                 been addressed and
>                 > solved, I apologize for taking up your time.
>                 >
>                 >
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