Re: [gnome-love] Things that make you go "What in the world is That?!?"

[Geiregat Jonas <eniac sdf-eu org>]

Elijah Newren wrote:

> While Paolo has commented on this, I do have a few extra comments...
>
> On Mon, 2004-05-24 at 17:35, Chris Kelso wrote:
> <snip>
>  
>
> > Basic things in glib get me stuck.
> >    
>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>  
>
> >  Such as gobject.
> >    
>    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> I'm going to have to disagree with you  on gobject being an example of a
> basic thing.  
a small introduction that gives you a basic good idea never hurts,
I also believe know the under laying layer makes you a better programmer.

> It's purpose is to make it easy to create binding to gtk+
> in other languages.  Unless you are writing language bindings yourself
> or doing something else advanced in gtk+, I think beginners can mostly
> ignore gobject (signal connection being the major example that they
> can't ignore).
>
> Of course, I'm only a beginner myself (I have told others that my
> tutorial was just an attempt by the blind to lead the blind, and have
> tried to use that as an excuse to get some experts to review it), so
> maybe there really are examples that I'm unaware of...  Any of the
> experts on the list want to comment?
>
>  
>
> > I have yet to 
> > see a guide which can explain it to me in terms of c++ or java or 
> > what-have-you.  How do interfaces work in the system.  How do I know all 
> > the things I should include in a new class.  I have seen two guides on 
> > this and neither of the relate to a more familiar OOP langauge.
> >    
>
> Is that needed?  As far as I remember, nothing in the gtkmm tutorial
> mentions gobject.  (gtkmm is the set of c++ language bindings for gtk,
> more info can be found at www.gtkmm.org)  Perhaps you could describe in
> more detail what you're trying to do and someone else can help you out. 
> :-)    (I would try to help, but I definitely don't know any details
> about gobject)
>
>  
>
> >  Another thing I have been wrestling with lately is GtkListStore.  How 
> > the heck do I use these?
> >    
>
> If you're thinking in terms of c++, then
> http://www.gtkmm.org/docs/gtkmm-2.4/docs/tutorial/html/ch08s07.html also
> provides an example that may be of use to you.  Of course, Paolo also
> provided another in his email already, aimed at C.
>
> ...  I think I should probably add the links Paolo mentioned to my
> tutorial as well.  Federico told me he'll be writing up something on
> Drag and Drop, and a link to it could go in the same section.
>
>  
>
> >  Lastly I am still completely bewildered by internationalization , i.e. 
> > the _ macro.
> >    
>
> Yeah, I was too for a while.  After reading up on it, there's really not
> all that much to it.  It (and the N_ and L_ macros) were things I was
> planning on adding to my "What in the world is That?" chapter, though
> I'm not sure where or how to add it yet.
>
>  
>
> > I really excited to be working on the gnome project, It is just a pain 
> > in the rear to get started.
> >    
>
> I couldn't agree more.  If you have any suggestions on how to fix this,
> feel free to send them to me.  My tutorial is one attempt to help fix
> this, but I'm sure there's more things we need to do as well.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Elijah
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