Re: Very disappointed in Gnome 3

You say 'beginner friendly', but the reality is that the vast majority
of new users will be migrating from Windows, be relatively confident
with computers, and will probably just want to get on with doing
things without having to adapt to a completely different and IMO less
efficient environment. WIth Gnome Panel there were differences, but
the underlying rational, minimistically simple ethos was the same.

How is having applications launched from three seperate places more
simple or beginner friendly? Surely it is simpler just to think, 'this
the list of (GUI) apps that are available', relying on the
'non-computer' menu metaphor rather than the search engine analogy.

My main gripe with Gnome/Unity, however, is the attitude that things
need to be made SO 'beginner friendly'. Actually it's disempowering to
beginners because they will learn to rely on an interface that is
geared towards a lack of understanding at the expense of logic, in an
attempt to obscure fundamental and unavoidable complexities.

On 10/08/2011, Magnus Therning <magnus therning org> wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 22:09, Craig Daymon <craigdaymon att net> wrote:
>> What happened to my desktop icons?  Why can't I right click to get
>> desktop options?  Or any options for that matter?  Why can't I move the
>> application bar to the bottom of the screen WHERE I LIKE IT?  I thought
>> Linux was about choice?  Why can't I set the bar to auto-hide?  Again,
>> NO RIGHT CLICK!  Everything I had set up under the previous incarnation
>> of Gnome is lost!  This was a horrible release!  It looks like it was
>> made for a grade schooler's toy.  If someone wants to configure it that
>> way for a specific use, great, but as the default configuration it is
>> crap.  Have you people learned NOTHING from 30+ years of user interface
>> design?
> There's a fallback mode (I think that's what it's called) that makes
> Gnome3 behave and look more like Gnome2. Have you already tried it?
> On another note I don't think that emails like yours will be very well
> received among the Gnome developers. I fully understand your
> frustration and irritation after finding that Gnome3 is a disruptive
> and fundamental change to Gnome. The Gnome community does however have
> a vision for the desktop, and as with all things not everyone will be
> happy with it. Linux still offers a lot of choice, but maybe not at
> all levels; in other words, you can always choose not to run Gnome3 if
> you aren't happy with it. Despite your first impression I hope you
> take the time to REALLY try Gnome3. For me it took a good 2 months of
> daily use to get used to it, and still I'm not quite sure whether I
> like it or not. As has been pointed out before there is a very real
> loss of configurability that is easy to access, but hopefully that'll
> be addressed in the near future. My current feeling about Gnome3 is
> that maybe we are moving in different directions; I'm becoming more
> experienced and more sophisticated in my use of Linux, and Gnome is
> becoming more beginner-friendly.
> /M
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