Re: Get nautilus OFF OF MY SYSTEM!!!

On 08 May 2001 13:49:39 -0400, Michael Soulier wrote:
> On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 10:24:19AM -0400, Ben FrantzDale wrote:
> > 
> > You should be able to run all gnome- and KDE-based applications without
> > running either deskop, provided you have the libraries installed. All
> > applications should run just fine under IceWM or whatever other
> > light-weight WM you like.
> > 
> > If you are having dependency problems I'm sure people will be glad to
> > help you sort them out.
>     Well, I think the real problem is that many want to use a component from
> Gnome, for example, which then requires the entire set of libs. Gnucash, for
> example, uses the gnome calendar to make implementation easier. It also
> requires a whole mess of stuff, just for one component. Granted, disk space is
> cheap but I don't like that attitude. It's what got winblows up to the
> horrible minimum install that it currently is. 
>     Plus, there are expectations at times of running the desktop system.
> Korganizer, for example, looking for kdeinit. Implementors making the
> assumption that if you're using a KDE app, or a Gnome app, that you must be
> using said desktop, is always a bad assumption. 
>     I just makes me long for Tk apps, y'know? I understand the work that goes
> into these projects, I'm working on one with a friend now while trying to
> balance a normal 8-hour/day job. I just want to make sure that we don't lose
> sight of the target here, which is freedom. Forcing someone to install a mess
> of libs for an app that's one tenth the size is not a good idea, IMHO, and
> assuming a given desktop is a worse one. 

I understand where you are coming from. In general it is very broken for
an app to assume that a certain desktop is being run. However when it
comes to having Gnucash require gnome-core so it can use gnome-calendar,
I don't see a problem. Sure it means that if you want just Gnucash you
are going to use a lot of disk space for no reason. But in order to have
a set of applications that look and feel alike, they will need to share
components as much as possible. (I hope you arn't implying that the
Gnucash developers should have avoided code-reuse and created their own
calendar widget.)

>     Just my 2 cents, trying to make the world a better place, just like you.

yep :-)

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