Re: New GNOME Website - Plone Deployment

[John Carr <john carr unrouted co uk>]

Hi,

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Jeff Schroeder <jeffschroed gmail com> wrote:
> On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 8:08 AM, Lucas Rocha <lucasr gnome org> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We're working during this development cycle to have a beta version of
>> the new GNOME website by September 21 (GNOME 2.28 release). For
>> details about the plan, go to:
>>
>>  http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/TwoPointTwentyseven
>>
>> The new website will be based on Plone and we need to discussion about
>> the best way to handle the deployment of the new website in GNOME
>> servers. The Plone developers have added some deployment notes here:
>>
>>  http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/Plone/Deployment
>
> This page suggests we use varnish. Try googling "varnish segfault".
> Personally, I've seen nothing problems with it. Do the plone devs have
> suggested stable versions of it? It compiles the config file into
> executable code and loads it. Could we use something novel like
> Cherokee in its place

My contacts say they use squid + pound over varnish.

>> The short term goal now is to setup a continuous build infra to have a
>> test website always running the latest code from repository. During
>> the 2.27/2.28 cycle, the code will reside on Plone's collective
>> subversion repository. So, the idea is to have 1 or 2 builds per day
>> where the latest code is checked out from repository and automatically
>> re-deployed on GNOME servers.
>>
>> The long term goal is, of course, to have our Plone instance running
>> on GNOME servers with the ideal resources and optimum performance. In
>> that case, I'm sure there are many technical details that need to be
>> sorted out before any action here. This is why I'm sending this
>> message: to kick off discussion between Plone developers and sysadmins
>> about our Plone deployment.
>>
>> So, I ask to sysadmins:
>> - Do we have enough server resources to run Plone with optimum
>> performance? If not, how can we solve this?
>> - How feasible it is to have the test website and the continuous build
>> infra done in the next 2-3 weeks? In that case, we don't need the
>> ideal server resources yet as it's just for testing.
>> - Do you need any further information other than the stuff on the wiki page?
>
> Being new to the team, someone with more experience might be able to
> answer some of the other questions but here are mine.
>
> Is python 2.4.5 a hard requirement? This limits where we can run Plone
> and what distros we might use unless we backport python.

Zope is funny about what version of python it targets. 2.4.4 is
minimum. There is no 2.5 support.

> The wiki page says, "Missing: provide a script that checks out the
> latest code and rebuilds the code and restarts the Plone instance".
>
> Can we get links to the plone docs on building from trunk or a "best
> practices guide" on how they do it? We might learn something clever
> from their insight and then write the scripts ourselves.

I think the plone guys will take care of this bit for us.

>> The Plone guys have already subscribed to this mailing list and will
>> answer any questions you may have.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> --lucasr
>
> Thanks!
>

John