Re: Tools to help with mnemonic l10n?





On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 02:08, Byrial Jensen <byrial vip cybercity dk> wrote:
13-01-2012 19:49, Luc Pionchon wrote:
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 12:49, Kenneth Nielsen <k nielsen81 gmail com
<mailto:k nielsen81 gmail com>> wrote:

   Hallo Byrial


       The information should be in po-file in form of some form of
       extracted
       comments inserted by the program which generates the pot-file. That
       program can get the information by parsing the XML file made be
       glade.


   I think the problem is that not all programs in GNOME use the
   xml-files for the program layout (Glade generated or otherwise).


the accessibility tools (atk at-spi) should be able to extract the
information from a running program.

Hi Luc,

I don't know this tool, but it sounds interessting. I think though that it may be difficult for a tool which get information from running a program to find and activate all menus and pop up-windows etc. which accept key mnemonics. That's very difficult even for a human tester.

That's what GNOME accessibility technologies are doing. It allows to navigate through the tree of widgets of the UI. You should ask more technical people for more details.

 

But I think that the best way to go is to set a requirement for developers.
For example to write translator comments, as proposed by Byrial (see below)

Well my proposal was that a tool should generate these comments by examing the interface code if possible.

I meant the translator comments that you proposed:
> #. Mnemonic group "Search menu" with 3 items.

 
It would be very hard to get the developers to make such comments manually.

yes or no.
It's a matter of asking. "If you want your application well translated, indicate mnemonic groups to the translators" or so...

 
Besides manually made comments could easily become outdated or deviate from the standard, so they couldn't be parsed by po file checkers.

And if the interface code is generated by glade or similar, the developers simply may not be able to comment manually.


- Byrial
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