Re: Mistakes in doc translations

[Matej Urban <matej urban gmail com>]

Hello,

following this debate I noticed Slovenian translation being used as an example.
In our "local" copy, that gets updated directly from POT file, these
errors do NOT exist! in the gnome-help file.

I have no idea how this happens, but I do remember correcting them before.
We always update local copy of the file with published POT and we have
only ONE local copy of the file.

I will again check for this and similar errors.

M!


On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:34 AM, Shaun McCance <shaunm gnome org> wrote:
> On Mon, 2012-04-16 at 23:04 +0200, Bruno Brouard wrote:
>> Le lundi 16 avril 2012 à 22:14 +0200, Andre Klapper a écrit :
>> > On Mon, 2012-04-16 at 21:01 +0200, Bruno Brouard wrote:
>> > > I am sorry, i don't understand what you mean. Is it possible to have an
>> > > example?
>> >
>> > To put it into other words:
>> > Shaun fixed something in Git, and the translators OVERWROTE the fix with
>> > his/her next commit to Git.
>> >
>> Thank you again, I am not stupid :-)
>>
>> But Shaun speak specifically of "markup mistakes" and said
>> "I don't know what everybody's workflow is, but probably some
>> translators treat
>> what's on their machine as canonical, and copy it over without ever
>> trying to merge."
>> I don't understand this previous sentence.
>>
>> Can HE give a concrete example of the error (that maybe i am doing)?
>>
>> As the message is intended to all commiters, i think it is better to be
>> clearer, even if it
>> is necessary to name someone. If i am doing mistake, i want to learn my
>> mistake.
>> I am just a human.
>
> I have corrected markup errors in the French translations. See my
> commits here:
>
> http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-user-docs/log/gnome-help/fr/fr.po
>
> But the errors are always new errors. As an example of my corrections
> being overwritten, look at the Slovenian translations. Here's a commit
> I made about two weeks ago:
>
> http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-user-docs/commit/gnome-help/sl/sl.po?id=34f54c24c2d69d94fdf4124436c84b2d977045e0
>
> And here's the commit I made today:
>
> http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-user-docs/commit/gnome-help/sl/sl.po?id=4f68f59f5da11f193cc4eaa91c34c4c9f6e045b7
>
> This is the workflow that usually leads to these kinds of problems:
>
> 1) Get the file from git and copy it to some folder somewhere.
> 2) Edit the file.
> 3) Update your git repository, or clone it fresh.
> 4) Copy the file from some folder into the repository and commit.
>
> Using this workflow, you will never get merges of other people's work.
> If anybody else edits the files you edit, you will always overwrite
> whatever they do.
>
> And I realize many translators are used to basically owning their own
> po files and not having to worry about other people editing them. But
> module maintainers have to be able to fix syntax errors. And until we
> get better tool support (like the kinds of checks you all already have
> for format strings), we'll continue to see these mistakes.
>
> --
> Shaun
>
>
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