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Re: Self Introduction of Pranali Deshmukh for GSoD 2020

X-posting to gsod-team gnome org for highlighting this feedback request.

On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 at 03:28, Pranali Deshmukh <pranali21293 gmail com> wrote:
Hey Umang,

Thank you so much for getting back to me and sharing your valuable feedback! :)

On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 at 00:54, Umang Jain <mailumangjain gmail com> wrote:
Hi Pranali,

Things are looking good to me at least (BUT I am not a mentor for this project). I went through most of your links mentioned below and left a couple of comments here and there.
The broad timeline seems OK to me and looking at your experience now, I think it's realistic. On the other hand, I want to keep an open mind about the timeline as lot of stuff
depends on you, your mentor(s) and priorities. Things might change in due course and that's OK. Some deviation might happen from the proposal but it should be fine
as long as you and your mentor(s) are on the same page.
While drafting the timeline for the proposal I made a conscious effort to keep it as realistic as possible, however, I do understand that this might be subject to change as the project progresses based upon the mentor's feedback and shifting priorities. I plan to keep working with the project mentors for this during the course of the project.

On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 8:32 PM Pranali Deshmukh via gnome-doc-list <gnome-doc-list gnome org> wrote:
Hi Petr, Umang, Ole,

Thank you for getting back to me. I wasn't quite sure if we could upload a draft proposal on the GSoD web portal, so I copied over all the questions to a Google Doc file [1] and have started preparing it there. It's still a work in progress, however, I plan to finish it by the end of the day today. I have also created another Google Doc to prepare a draft for the project roadmap [2] for which I'm planning to add a link in my proposal.

For my contributions to the Documentation project, I have also created a spreadsheet [3] on Google Drive with the links to the issues I have worked upon along with the links for my commits and Merge Requests. So far my last 3 contributions were to the User Docs issues for Evince, wherein I interacted with Andre Klapper and  Germán Poo-Caamaño while working on these issues.

Since the last few days, I was solely focussing on my preparing my application proposal. However, I have identified a couple of issues that I want to work upon during the next few days to familiarize myself with the scope of work on the Gedit and GNOME Notes apps. However, I'm presently a bit unsure about the status of work on the Gedit issue [#167] so I have commented on it asking if I can work on it. For Gnome Notes, I have been going through issue #75 and am working on a patch for it. I also plan to add some screenshots to it since Bijiben's Help documentation looks a bit sparse and some screenshot would go a long way in helping end-users.

Apart from these, I have also started blogging [4] about my journey [5] on this project and am planning to continue posting blogs regarding my work on the project.
This is great. Looking forward to your blog and progress reports. Also did you figure out how to get your blog in on planet.gnome.org ? :)
Ahh! I'm glad that you brought this up. I have been looking at the Planet GNOME Guidelines wiki page to figure out how to add my blog to planet.gnome.org. Once I'm done with my proposal submission, I'll be filing the issues for setting this up on GitLab and hopefully have my blog added to Planet! :)

I have a query regarding the GSoD program in general which I am a bit confused about after doing probably a bit too much research about it. The documentation work, from what I understand is an ongoing long term contribution area, however, for the purposes of the GSoD project I've planned out my schedule for the Standard 3 month length, with further contributions after the completion of the project. Is it ok to apply for the Standard length (3 months) for the program or does it have to be a long-term (5 months) project? Also, does the program duration have any impact on the stipend amount?
I think it depends if you opt for "long running" projects. So your proposal timeline length should vary accordingly. Have you registered on GSoD website yet? Maybe take a look on workflow on how to submit a proposal and there you might find a checkbox if you want to opt for standard or long-running projects. Not sure if it's true but I am just assuming things based on my looking up GSoD's website. 
I was unsure if I would be able to modify my proposal once I submit it so I haven't submitted it yet. There is an option on the application form to indicate whether the project is of "Standard Length (3 Months)" or a "Long-Running (5 Months)" type. I've been planning my proposal around the Standard Length time period, as it looks like quite a reasonable time-frame for the project. I can always continue contributing to the project after the completion of the program as well! :)

I don't know how stipends might work. It would be better if you can contact Google OSPO in some way for clarification. 
Yes. I have sent an email to the season-of-docs-support list asking for clarification on this. 

I have also gone ahead and shared my application proposal, project timeline plan and my contributions list documents with you. Can you please review them and share your feedback on how I can improve them further?  

Also, can you please let me know if there are any other steps that I should work upon before submitting my proposal tomorrow?

Hi Petr, your specific comments would be valuable here as I see you being one of the mentors. :)  
@Petr Kovar @shaunm gnome org It would be very helpful if you can also share your valuable feedback about my draft proposal and project roadmap so that it if there is anything that you want me to update or any specific points which you think I should focus on and elaborate more about, that would be great! Looking forward to hearing from you!

Kind Regards,
Pranali Deshmukh

On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 at 17:47, Petr Kovar <pmkovar gnome org> wrote:
Hi Pranali,

First off, thanks for your interest in GNOME GSoD 2020. Can you point us
to your GitLab merge requests you have already submitted? That will help
us get a better idea if it's that kind of contributions we would like to
get scope-wise, and as a group we can also help with reviews if you need
them.

Umang, thanks for following up. And you are totally right, this work is
really mostly about submitting merge requests against GitLab repos that
require user docs updates.

Thank you!
pk


On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 16:42:14 +0530
Umang Jain via gnome-doc-list <gnome-doc-list gnome org> wrote:

> Hi Pranali,
>
> On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 4:02 PM Pranali Deshmukh via gnome-doc-list <
> gnome-doc-list gnome org> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Can you please help me contact any of the mentors for the project. I have
> > already made a few contributions to the project (Update app help) however,
> > so far, apart from the discussions on my merge requests I haven't been able
> > to contact anyone from GNOME including the the GSoD mentors via any of the
> > communication mediums (email, IRC).
> >
>
> Thanks for your contributions. It definitely helps to get started via
> contributions and that puts quite a edge in your application. So, indeed
> you are on the right track.
>
>
> > As such I am worried about applying for this project for GSoD, since there
> > seems to be no medium for gathering any direct or indirect suggestions and
> > feedback about the work that I can do for this project.
> >
> > Can you please help me contact any of the project mentors with whom I
> > could talk to about the project itself.
> >
> >
> Yes, I can understand any direct suggestions and feedback from mentors,
> helps refining the proposal; But also, do not discount the communications
> happened over the merge requests because that's what you will be engaged to
> do 90% of the time during the season.
> If those things are rolling along, it's a good sign :) Highlight your
> contributions while finalizing your proposal for GSoD.
>
> Coming back to your request at hand, I think you have researched and made
> up your mind for the project you want to pursue, so I would suggest to just
> start preparing the proposal. Is there a way to upload a draft proposal on
> the GSoD web portal?
> I am sure GSoC's web portal has one, but not sure of GSoD.
>
> Since the deadline for applications is close, you can use  your best
> judgement to align the proposal with the tasks and the estimated timeline
> and upload it to the web portal (if possible). Maybe you might then get
> some (last-min)feedback then :)
> In parallel, continue your contributions on the things you have been doing.
> That'll make sure mentors know your name, before they start going through
> the applications they received for GSoD.
>
> Generally GNOME is quite friendly and responsive community but, you can
> guess times are a lot weird and each of us (including you) might be going
> through a lot.
> Best you can do, is to keep up the contributions and keep the timeline
> thing rolling. :)
>
>
> > Kind Regards,
> > Pranali Deshmukh
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 25, 2020, 3:42 PM Pranali Deshmukh <pranali21293 gmail com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Umang,
> >>
> >> Thank you so much for your quick reply!
> >>
> >> I have already gone through the reference materials listed on the GNOME
> >> Season of Docs 2020 website for the "Update app help" project. I understand
> >> that I would have to work on updating the help documentation for the apps
> >> listed on the ApplicationHelp
> >> <https://wiki.gnome.org/DocumentationProject/Tasks/ApplicationHelp>page
> >> for apps whose status are currently marked as [REFRESH] or [NEEDSWORK].
> >> Also I understand that I would need to use Mallard and Yelp-tools for this
> >> purpose once I have cloned the repository and set-up my profile on GitLab.
> >> Are there any steps that I am missing here before I can start contributing
> >> to the project?
> >>
> >> Also, unfortunately I haven't been able to track them on IRC whenever I
> >> logged into it. As such it would be great if anyone here can provide me
> >> with any alternate contact options for me to get in touch with the project
> >> mentor.
> >>
> >> Kind Regards,
> >> Pranali Deshmukh
> >>
> >> On Tue, 23 Jun 2020 at 18:10, Umang Jain <mailumangjain gmail com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Pranali,
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for the introduction and your interest in GSoD 2020.
> >>>
> >>> Since you already seem to have the understanding of how things work,
> >>> from your oureachy attempt,
> >>> I think the best way is to start making a plan and break-down the tasks
> >>> required in order to achieve
> >>> the project idea you are targeting for. This will provide a decent base
> >>> for making a proposal and getting
> >>> it review-ed by the concerned mentors beforehand. For the context
> >>> required for the task, I just had a
> >>> skim of your project idea target on [1] and it seems a lot of reference
> >>> material is linked there itself with
> >>> potential mentors who might have vouched for the idea.
> >>>
> >>> I understand that there might be a conundrum in choosing/monitoring
> >>> various communication channels
> >>> (e.g. mailing list, discourse.gnome.org, IRC, chat.gnome.org .... ) but
> >>> it's something you need to do initially
> >>> to see which mentors prefers what mode of communication. After lurking
> >>> for a while, you will get the hang
> >>> of it and will figure out the "primary" mode of communication.
> >>>
> >>> So have you gone through the reference materials linked on [1]? Do you
> >>> have any specific questions and/or
> >>> inputs about it? Maybe then this list would be more useful to you.
> >>>
> >>> [1] https://www.gnome.org/news/2020/05/gnome-season-of-docs-2020/
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 8:00 PM Pranali Deshmukh via gnome-doc-list <
> >>> gnome-doc-list gnome org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> I am Pranali Deshmukh. I am currently working with Airbus Operations
> >>>> ltd. as a Data analytics Intern. My internship ends in August 2020.
> >>>>
> >>>> I am writing to build an application for GSoD2020 with GNOME. After
> >>>> going through the project ideas for GNOME, I'm most interested in the
> >>>> following two projects: Content audit and gap analysis for GNOME - help
> >>>> update App Help. Having gone through the project ideas listed at the
> >>>> project ideas page, and the requirements for a technical writer, I feel
> >>>> that I am fit for the position as I already have experience in technical
> >>>> writing from my Outreachy project attempt for "Haiku". Also, I have worked
> >>>> extensively on technical documentation projects in the course of my
> >>>> internship at Airbus. As such I would like to talk to a mentor.
> >>>>
> >>>> In the past, I tried to reach out to some of the folks for a
> >>>> conversation, but I guess the best way to do it is to talk in more open -
> >>>> and here I am.
> >>>>
> >>>> Looking forward to hearing back from you.
> >>>>
> >>>> Kind Regards,
> >>>> Pranali Deshmukh
> >>>> _______________________________________________
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> >>>> gnome-doc-list gnome org
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> >>>>
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>
>
> --
> Umang
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