Re: gnome-db/TOAD/gASQL (was Re: [gnome-db]Access-like prkect)

[Philippe Roy <ph_roy toutdoux org>]

Hi,

> I remember talking with you (I think) about you using libgda. Did you
> find problems/limitations in libgda for not using it? if so, please tell
> me which ones

The major reason is "I don't want a CORBA requirement, optional only".
I don't understand the problem solved by CORBA for an open source platform.
Building components ? I think there are better way: shared lib, plug-in,
guile, command line, pipe, (soup ?), ... .

I'm sorry, I don't have a great experience with corba apps (panel, control
panel, ...).
They are big, slow, unstable, with overcomplicated code and with a
nightmarish installation.
I don't want imagine this in intensive production context. I think there
are others solutions.
So making the gda plug-in interface wasn't the priority.
When ? I don't know, next month perhaps.

> We're also working on a report engine. So, Carlos, maybe you could talk
> with Philippe to see if we can have something useful for both projects,
> if possible. In fact, we're also planning to use XSLT (with XML, not
> with LaTeX)

Printing without LaTeX ?
I think it's really important to have a human readable file before the
printer.

About the report system, I'm inspirated by glade, by framemaker and
presentation software.
I think a GUI for building xsl file or LaTeX class is the solution for all
publication problem (paper/web, listing/presentation, ...).

> no, I haven't, but I'm going to install it one of these days. Are there
> debian packages?

I haven't got packages, not yet.

A+
Philippe


On 2001.07.27 01:48 Rodrigo Moya wrote:
> On 26 Jul 2001 22:23:55 +0200, Philippe Roy wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I'm the main programmer of toutdoux (project manager).
> > I think M$ Access is really a good software (the better of m$ ?).
> > 
> well, I disagree, I really think it is very limited (for more advanced
> users), although it is great in UI and ease-of-use.
> 
> > I think the database for the project management must be free.
> > In fact, the project managament need a lot of specifics data. Time
> isn't
> > alone.
> > So, I added a schema editor (called cogitation) in toutdoux.
> > The data querying is coded in pure SQL (postgresql).
> >
> I remember talking with you (I think) about you using libgda. Did you
> find problems/limitations in libgda for not using it? if so, please tell
> me which ones
>  
> > All interfaces (tree, gantt, network, plot, ...) are plug-in with the
> Guile
> > (internal system command, scripting, ...).
> > All computations (scheduling, ...) are plug-in with differents
> languages
> > (prolog, octave, ...).
> > I want add a report system with LaTeX and XSLT.
> > So, I make an ACCESS too, not a clone, but the same goal.
> > 
> so, another competitor :-)
> We're also working on a report engine. So, Carlos, maybe you could talk
> with Philippe to see if we can have something useful for both projects,
> if possible. In fact, we're also planning to use XSLT (with XML, not
> with LaTeX)
> 
> > Are you tested ToutDoux ?
> > What are you think ?
> > 
> no, I haven't, but I'm going to install it one of these days. Are there
> debian packages?
> 
> cheers
> --
> Rodrigo Moya <rodrigo gnome-db org> - <rodrigo ximian com>
> http://www.gnome-db.org/ - http://www.ximian.com/
> 
> 














On 2001.07.27 01:48 Rodrigo Moya wrote:
> On 26 Jul 2001 22:23:55 +0200, Philippe Roy wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I'm the main programmer of toutdoux (project manager).
> > I think M$ Access is really a good software (the better of m$ ?).
> > 
> well, I disagree, I really think it is very limited (for more advanced
> users), although it is great in UI and ease-of-use.
> 
> > I think the database for the project management must be free.
> > In fact, the project managament need a lot of specifics data. Time
> isn't
> > alone.
> > So, I added a schema editor (called cogitation) in toutdoux.
> > The data querying is coded in pure SQL (postgresql).
> >
> I remember talking with you (I think) about you using libgda. Did you
> find problems/limitations in libgda for not using it? if so, please tell
> me which ones
>  
> > All interfaces (tree, gantt, network, plot, ...) are plug-in with the
> Guile
> > (internal system command, scripting, ...).
> > All computations (scheduling, ...) are plug-in with differents
> languages
> > (prolog, octave, ...).
> > I want add a report system with LaTeX and XSLT.
> > So, I make an ACCESS too, not a clone, but the same goal.
> > 
> so, another competitor :-)
> We're also working on a report engine. So, Carlos, maybe you could talk
> with Philippe to see if we can have something useful for both projects,
> if possible. In fact, we're also planning to use XSLT (with XML, not
> with LaTeX)
> 
> > Are you tested ToutDoux ?
> > What are you think ?
> > 
> no, I haven't, but I'm going to install it one of these days. Are there
> debian packages?
> 
> cheers
> --
> Rodrigo Moya <rodrigo gnome-db org> - <rodrigo ximian com>
> http://www.gnome-db.org/ - http://www.ximian.com/
> 
>