Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp in private schools and educational institutions

I'm an "American" (US citizen even), and the name GIMP is just fine. For
the record, I have no issues wearing a GIMP teeshirt.
Be thankful that the name was changed in 1995 from "The GIMP" to just
"GIMP", following the realisation that the movie "Pulp Fiction" would
forever taint the name in the minds of those who care more about what a
program is called than what it does. Given the sheer quantity of GIMP
tutorials on YouTube, it's obviously wildly popular in the English-speaking
 (US and non-US) world. If rich kids's parents in private schools turn
their nose up at GIMP just because the acronym spells something that isn't
marketed to them directly, then they will have no issues buying/subscribing
to Photoshop, which is a usable substitute for GIMP. Not ideal, I'll grant
you, but well, beggars and choosers and such. ;)

One last solution (since the name will not change) might be to append the
version number after GIMP, so they could call it "GIMP 2.8", which would
disambiguate it from the fetishy Quentin Tarantino character (as if that
mistake could actually be made).

My two cents, and I am a career graphic designer and long, long time
Photoshop user (since Photoshop was ver 2.5, up through CS3). These days I
use GIMP for all my Photoshop heavy-lifting. I always recommend GIMP to
companies as a replacement for Adobe products for their photo-editing and
graphic design needs. Not one has even mentioned the name being an issue.
Why would they? GIMP goes right along with Google, Yahoo, and a myriad of
other silly named things that people also don't care about. The most common
questions I get are "Are you sure this is free?", and "No, really? This is
free? I can use this for professional purposes?".

Sure, there will always be some people who don't like the name. Maybe a
page directing them to some of the finer points made in these
conversations, and suggestions for calling it something "else" like
G.I.M.P. or GnuIMP, or GIMP 2.8. or pronouncing it "JIMP" as none of these
require changing the name of the program.


On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 7:47 PM, Nathan Summers <rockwalrus gmail com>

Grr, when did GMail change the default from reply-to-list to

On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 4:34 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine
<alexandre prokoudine gmail com> wrote:
28 апр. 2015 г. 8:22 пользователь "Sam Bagot" написал:

Renames have worked in the past as I see it and for the most part, as
sure you've heard people consider before, a product named gimp can't
succeed against a product named professionally like PhotoShop.

We do not make GIMP to compete against Photoshop.

GIMP _is_ used at schools. Also, USA is not the only country in the
Not even the largest one out there.

So our target audience is non-English speaking photographic
professionals that don't already like Photoshop?  I just don't see
that as a very big niche.

Furthermore, I suggest you exercise nastyness elsewhere. This is a
list for discussing development of GIMP.

There's nothing nasty about what he said.  The name of the program
actually is a serious impediment to the development of GIMP, and if
it's not to be discussed here, then where?  Sam makes several
excellent points about why GIMP doesn't get the kind of professional
contributions that other projects of similar stature such as the Linux
kernel or Firefox, and I think there's a lot of truth to what he says.

You can say that you don't care about what GIMP means in English out
of some egalitarian principal that all languages should be treated
equally, but as a practical matter that means that you're putting a
huge barrier to developing in place for the largest part of the
software industry GDP.  That has consequences.  For example, I
wouldn't have wanted my name associated with something called "GIMP"
if I had known what the word meant when I started contributing to it.
I highly doubt I'm the only one.  Are you sure it's a good idea to
shut out contributions from all but the most naive and the most
calloused of the English-speaking world?

I personally consider the "we can get people to overlook the
connotations of the name" idea as a failed hypothesis at this point.
I'm not sure how aware the non-native-English speakers are of how far
the name is outside of the Overton Window, but I can assure you it's
not even close.  It's not worth the effort to try to make it socially
acceptable.  You can choose to ignore that fact, but you can't deny
that it has a very large influence on the pace of development.

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