Re: [gDesklets] Categories

[Lauri Kainulainen <lauri sokkelo net>]

Robo Pastierovic wrote:
> > The whole idea for 0.40 (and now for 0.36 as well) was to take this
> > stuff (shell, installation, etc.) out from the core. It's inside a
> > control called Desklet. This makes it possible to build desklets that
> > handle shell functionality.
> It is questionable if someone will ever build desklet that handles shell
> functionality without being part of the gdesklets (core) team. The other
> thing is that gD shell runs system commands, so for the user's comfort
> he shouldn't be bothered with messages that running this desklet should
> be dangerous. So it basically must be part of the core or somehow
> recognized as "official" shell. I don't think it's worth the trouble :)

Actually it's no trouble. The amount of extra code to make the 
installation based on the control is minimal. It's just good design. 
Having the installation as a control has many advantages in addition to 
the fact that you can use it in desklets. Such as encapsulation and 
modularity  (you can develop the control on it's own and release when 
you wish and it runs on all gd versions).

I don't understand the point about running system commands.. the code 
would have to run those commands anyway. Putting them in a control is 
not a security risk in itself. Actually I feel that the whole thing 
makes the process more transparent as people can very easily find the 
installation related code when they don't need to understand the core.

And there will always be one official shell. It'll be the one that 
starts through the gd-menu.

> > If people are against the web integration, we can turn it off. It's
> > just a simple feature.
> Ok. But than you should design the shell in such a way that it won't
> lose the functionality of the current shell while turning this off. From
> the images I see, it seems to be heavily website-based (News?). And the
> content from the website should be clearly distinguishable for the user
> also. 

The applications so far have been more proof-of-concepts that actual 
shells. All good features of the old shell will be there (installation 
via dnd, etc.).

Personally I find the News bit to be one of the best new features :). I 
wasn't actually even planning on it in the beginning.

The cairoshell might be my starting point for the new shell. I think 
I'll start developing from there. I guess I'll take out the cairo 
transparency code and just do a plain boring regular GTK-app :)

> Anyways, I will try to install the 0.4 and take a closer look at
> the shell.

Thanks. Eagerly awaiting your feedback. Please remember that the control 
is still WIP and doesn't work nicely offline ;).


br,
lauri
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