Re: A few observations about GIMPNET

[Tristan Van Berkom <tvb gnome org>]

On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Andrea Veri <av gnome org> wrote:
> 2012/10/15 Tristan Van Berkom <tvb gnome org>:
>
>> Again, how do you expect to achieve this hypothetical migration ?
>>
>> You will post a memo and people will just happily follow the
>> foundation's decree ?
>>
>> I think you've misunderstood how things work in the real world.
>> Unless you actually pull the plug on GimpNET, which would probably
>> make at least a few of us sad, you will get a situation where possibly
>> some projects will follow you, most will remain where they've always
>> been comfortable, and you will get a situation of segregation, where
>> we used to be all united in GimpNET, now half of the projects will
>> be chatting on Freenode.
>
> That's why I've raised my concerns about the current situation and
> that's why we are currently discussing it. Migrating or not migrating
> will probably be a Board's decision but you may understand that the

No, that's the point you don't seem to get.

We are an assembly of projects, the gnome foundation is an umbrella
which is there to support us, defend our copyrights and branding
if and where possible (if not I suppose we go to the FSF), particularly
the board is organizing our events and helping us to raise funds for
those events and some programs which we agree as a foundation
are to our benefit (i.e. gsoc, wop, etc).

This is not a hierarchical system or a corporation, sure, it would be nice
for me to get off my lazy behind and migrate the Glade mailing lists off
of ximian and bring them to gnome MLs, I agree about that, but it is
not a decision that comes from high above and orders me to do so.

For the most part, we are all contributors. If you think you can impose
these kinds of decisions on contributors, we will simply lose contributors.

Best Regards,
            -Tristan

> current situation has to be improved in some way, we don't want to
> migrate? OK, but GIMPNET should act and discuss with us (the GNOME
> community) a possible solution, I'm sure we can find a deal.
>
> cheers,
>
> Andrea