Re: Candidacy: Lionel Dricot
- From: Martyn Russell <martyn lanedo com>
- To: foundation-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: Candidacy: Lionel Dricot
- Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 15:55:17 +0100
On 23/05/11 15:08, Dodji Seketeli wrote:
Martyn Russell<martyn lanedo com> a écrit:
That's always needed too of course, but when you have potential
customers asking who can provide support for projects X, Y and Z, do
you really want to be in a position where you have no answer?
Oh, you mean when a potential customer comes to the /Foundation Board/,
asking that question?
I didn't understand it that way. Sorry to ask a question as a reply,
No problem at all ;)
but does that happen already? If yes, how did the board handle it so
Yes, I believe so, perhaps Vincent can best comment here.
IMO it also means the customer may suffer because they either can't
find the support they're looking for or the wrong support from someone
We are a non-profit organisation with limited resources. Communicating
around the commercial offering of /one/ company can be a
non-straightforward exercise, when you want to do it right. Even more
for the commercial offerings of /several/ companies. Do we really want
to take that route?
Yes I believe we do, when people are choosing opposing toolkits
because it appears as if GTK+ has no commercial support, that's a lack
of communication IMO.
Let's talk about specifics. Did the clients choose e.g, Qt because KDE
e.V markets Trolltech's offerings or, do they do so because Trolltech is
better at communicating?
Well, the situation is different there in the sense that there is
already a company behind Qt for customers to go to. There are many
behind GTK+ and no one place to go to. This is part of the issue IMO.
From what I heard recently, a customer did choose Qt for these sort of
reasons (from recent board notes):
Johannes Schmid informed the board that at the Toronto hackfest that
they discussed about an organization that decided to use Qt instead of
GTK+ mainly because they were able to get a support contract for Qt.
You could also say they do a better job of communicating yes, as a
minimum they have a website to help people find what they're looking for:
and more specifically:
What are your concerns about communicating GNOME's commercial
My concern is that we'd try to address a real issue at a wrong level
and, incidentally, turning what should be a place to set and nurture a
vendor-neutral level playing field into a place uselessly cluttered by
Ah I see. That indeed would be horrid. I think the links above
illustrate how it would be better than what we have now.
I guess if what you want is just to maintain a web page of companies who
have something to sell around our "stack", I wouldn't have much concern.
But then I am not sure you need to be on the board for that.
Well, because companies (from what I have seen last GUADEC) come to the
board members about working with GNOME technologies (Vincent can comment
here I believe).
Of course I assume you mean well. I am just not convinced about the
efficiency of for-profit entities delegating their marketing to
I can understand that and we certainly mean well.
It's really born out of frustration when seeing companies move away from
projects we have deep involvement in to others by reasons of poor
communication (as I see it).
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