Re: Survey: GUADEC and Akadamy co-location in 2011

[john palmieri <john j5 palmieri gmail com>]

"Just do it" is the wrong attitude.  We "Just did it" last year and it was a mess.  There was little integration at the conference, Nokia used it as an event to pimp their decision to move from GTK to Qt and there were some who wanted to take over decision making for the next years events before we even assessed the current year (Tempre was already a chosen location by some before we put out the call for hosts, which is on so many levels the wrong way to go about having a cohesive co-maintained event).  To be fair there were some positives which is why I voted to do it next year but my support is contingent on us choosing a location which has GNOME members on the ground and the schedules becoming better aligned. 

Again the survey shows there is a will to have a co-located event again but it doesn't say "just do it".  Given the community's willingness to have another co-located event the board should do everything possible to make this happen but if the pieces don't fit, I hope we don't force it.

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John (J5) Palmieri

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Philip Van Hoof <pvanhoof gnome org> wrote:

On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 12:33 -0500, john palmieri wrote:

> I would like to point out that the survey was pretty narrow. For
> instance I said "do it" but I have the same reservations I had when I
> voted to not do it for this years GUADEC.  I want to see this happen
> right, which is to have us collaborate but at the same time keep our
> identities.

I think we should stop being afraid and "just do it".

It's more than clear that this is what our community wants.

These numbers are unambiguous (just like last year's survey):

> Do it vs Don't do it
> - contributors: 54 vs 25 (64.23% vs 29.76%)
> - foundation members: 49 vs 22 (65.33% vs 29.33%)
> - attended GCDS: 46 vs 19 (67.65% vs 27.94%)
> - attended guadec once: 9 vs 4 (69.23% vs 30.77%)
> - attended guadec more than once: 35 vs 19 (60.34% vs 32.76%)
> - never attended guadec: 22 vs 5 (70.97% vs 16.13%)

That's an overwhelming majority who want to co-locate.

> Productive improvements for GNOME:
> - yes, directly: 15 (14.56%)
> - yes, indirectly: 61 (59.22%)
> - no: 17 (16.50%)

This is an even greater overwhelming majority.


Cheers,

Philip

> 2010/2/1 Vincent Untz <vuntz gnome org>
>         Le lundi 01 février 2010, à 17:11 +0100, Vincent Untz a
>         écrit :
>         > Le lundi 01 février 2010, à 10:39 -0500, Joe 'Zonker'
>         Brockmeier a écrit :
>         > > On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Vincent Untz
>         <vuntz gnome org> wrote:
>         > > >
>         > > > Is there anyone who would like to help create a useful
>         summary of the
>         > > > results? I have some stats already, but if you let me do
>         this alone,
>         > > > I'll likely only present some less-effort stats ;-)
>         > >
>         > > Depends on how time-sensitive it is. I should have some
>         time towards
>         > > the end of the week, but right now am pretty swamped.
>         >
>         > Well, I would be hoping to be able to send some analysis in
>         the next few
>         > days. I guess if nobody steps up soon enough, I'll just
>         publish what I
>         > have and the raw results, so people could take a look and
>         produce more
>         > interesting stats.
>
>
>         Here are the stats I did (hopefully, I didn't get anything
>         wrong ;-)).
>         I'm attaching the results in case anybody wants to play with
>         them. Note
>         that I removed the answers to the free form entry since it
>         made it
>         possible to guess who replied what in a few cases (it
>         shouldn't be a big
>         loss, though).
>
>         + 103 people replied
>          - 84 are contributors (81.55%) and 18 aren't (17.48%)
>          - 75 are foundation members (72.82%) and 27 aren't (26.21%)
>          - 68 attended GCDS (66.02%) and 33 didn't (32.04%)
>          - 13 (12.62%) attended a GUADEC (before GCDS), 58 (56.31%)
>         attended 2
>            or more, and 31 (30.10%) never went to GUADEC
>
>         + Do it vs Don't do it
>          - contributors: 54 vs 25 (64.23% vs 29.76%)
>          - foundation members: 49 vs 22 (65.33% vs 29.33%)
>          - attended GCDS: 46 vs 19 (67.65% vs 27.94%)
>          - attended guadec once: 9 vs 4 (69.23% vs 30.77%)
>          - attended guadec more than once: 35 vs 19 (60.34% vs 32.76%)
>          - never attended guadec: 22 vs 5 (70.97% vs 16.13%)
>
>         + only/more likely to attend vs will not/less likely to attend
>         if
>          co-located
>          - contributors: 9 vs 10 (10.71% vs 11.90%)
>          - non-contributors: 10 vs 0 (55.56% vs 0%)
>
>         + productive improvements for GNOME:
>          - yes, directly: 15 (14.56%)
>          - yes, indirectly: 61 (59.22%)
>          - no: 17 (16.50%)
>
>         + misc:
>          - nobody said "do it" and "it won't lead to any improvement
>         for GNOME"
>          - 10 people said "don't do it" and "it will lead to
>         direct/indirect
>            improvements for GNOME"
>          - 9 people replied while they don't plan to go to GUADEC in
>         2011
>            (4 of them said "do it", 2 said "don't do it")
>
>
>         Vincent
>
>         --
>         Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés.
>
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