Re: Call for hosts for GUADEC 2009

[Behdad Esfahbod <behdad behdad org>]

This thread is getting quite off-topic now.  Lets end this particular
sub-topic here.  I'm sure if there's a Moroccan bid for '10 or '11, the
board of the time will consider it on fair grounds.  That's all that
matters.

behdad

On Thu, 2008-04-24 at 00:18 +0200, Ali Sabil wrote:
> On 4/23/08, BJörn Lindqvist <bjourne gmail com> wrote:
> > I fully agree. We think that the actions of the gnome foundation has a
> >  profound impact on the world, that the choice of venue is important.
> >  That holding the conference in morocco lends the moroccian *regime*
> >  credibility it does not deserve.
> >
> Wouldn't you be just spreading some kind of FUD ? What do you know
> about the Moroccan (not moroccian) regime and history ? What did the
> Moroccan people did to you ? Did you ever think that you should stop
> trying to keep the freedom for yourself and start sharing it with
> those who may not have it ?
> 
> Maybe should you rethink your "We are the good guys, they are the ugly
> guys" kind of mentality ?
> 
> Respectfully,
> 
> --
> Ali
> 
> >
> >  2008/4/22, Behdad Esfahbod <behdad behdad org>:
> >  > On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 19:03 +0000, BJörn Lindqvist wrote:
> >  > > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 6:03 PM, Behdad Esfahbod <behdad behdad org>
> >  > wrote:
> >  > > >  About GUADEC out of Europe, that's fine as long as the place is Ok for
> >  > > >  travel.  Bangalore has the same problem that US has.  Too far...  That
> >  > > >  said, I love to see GUADEC '11 in Morocco for example...
> >  > >
> >  > > I wouldn't. GNOME is all about creating more freedom, Morocco is all
> >  > > about taking away those freedoms. It would seem weird if the
> >  > > conference was hosted in a country so diametrically opposed to what
> >  > > GNOME stands for. That and the burning summer heat. :)
> >  >
> >  > GNOME is People.  Do you have any evidence that the Moroccan *people*
> >  > are opposed to the values GNOME stands for?  We think we in GNOME have a
> >  > great thing to offer, and any person on this planet deserves being part
> >  > of this the same as any other one.  "Those people have an oppressing
> >  > regime, ignore them" is not a really compelling idea to me.
> >  >
> >  > --
> >  > behdad
> >  > http://behdad.org/
> >  >
> >  > "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little
> >  >  Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
> >  >         -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759
> >  >
> >  >
> >
> >
> >
> >  --
> >  mvh Björn
> >
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behdad
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 Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
        -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759