Re: [Evolution] Keeping email on the server

[Ralf Mardorf <silver bullet zoho com>]

On Fri, 2022-08-19 at 22:51 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> You could try to CC:/BCC: yourself on the emails, then at least you
> have more chance of getting a saved email with headers. (There's an
> option to do that in Evolution under "Composing Messages" in the
> account editor.)  But if they are blocking you at SMTP time, then the
> mail won't get far enough to even send you the BCC:.  Your ISP can't
> expect full headers if they won't let the mail get that far.

Hi,

I'm using the Bcc to myself strategy a lot, but as you say, the OP's
mails may not come far enough.

> I suspect the instructions they gave you are generic ones for when people say
> "Why is this email in my spam folder" not when you are the source that
> is being blocked.

Replace the word "suspect" by "without doubts". Take into account that
the ISP also said

> 1. Highlight the message in your email client.
> 2. Right-click on the message and select "Save As..."
> 3. Choose Mail/Mail Files (*.eml).
> 4. Click Save.

The only common thing missing is

5. Was this guidance helpful?

This "5." is what an ISP usually does ask by the provided online guide,
but a real human working for the ISP does "5." not paste into a reply by
an email or a chat or the human does not read of "5." when "helping" by
telephone.

In my experiences with real humans helping on behave of the ISP or
averaged computer users helping by ISP related forums, you get
absolutely idiotic replies only.

User: Foo bar verification is disabled. The app passwords worked for one
and another MUA, but stopped working for one MUA, while it still works
for another MUA. I renewed the app-password for one MUA, but it still
doesn't work.

ISP or another user: You need to disable foo bar verification, before
you can use an app-password.

Regards,
Ralf

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