Re: [Evolution] Disable IMAP MOVE usage?

[Pete Biggs <pete biggs org uk>]

On Fri, 2014-11-21 at 08:18 +0100, Milan Crha wrote:
> On Thu, 2014-11-20 at 10:56 +0000, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > It has also completely changed my work flow for the new server:
> > I want mail to be filtered into different folders, but having the
> > marked-as-deleted message in my INBOX meant I was essentially 
> alerted > to the fact that there was something new that had been 
> filtered; at
> > the moment I am missing mails because I don't see that something has
> > arrived.  (If I want them to be filtered without being in my INBOX, I
> > do it on the server using the MTA.)
>
>         Hi,
> do you have shown deleted messages,

Yes, but the messages aren't deleted, they are moved, and in this brave
new IMAP+ era, moved doesn't mean COPY+DELETE, they are moved and no
trace is left in the original folder.  The same thing happens when I
drag and drop messages from one folder to another - which confused me
greatly when it first happened, especially because when the messages
disappear, the selected message wasn't the one I thought it was.  It's
also confusing that the behaviour differs between different IMAP
accounts depending on what the backend server is.

>  or what the workflow is, please? 
> The filters may not mark messages as read, thus whatever folder they 
> end in they should increase unread count on it and eventually add a 
> "new emblem" for that folder, indicating that a new message had been 
> added to the folder since it was last viewed.

The folder the messages are filtered into currently has about 25k
messages in it, of which 14254 of them are unread - adding more messages
isn't obvious.  These are messages from a local work mailing list -
there are things from the list I need to know about, some are critical,
most aren't, but having a separate archive is very useful for searching
for past information.  When the moved messages left a deleted message in
my INBOX, I could see if there was anything I needed to take notice of
before expunging.

I should add that I already filter messages on the server - these are
things like log messages from a couple of hundred machines, messages
from system monitoring equipment, boring maillists, social media, etc.
that I don't want in my INBOX.  But there are some things that I need to
have in my INBOX so that I can see important things.

> > Is there anyway to stop Evolution from using the IMAP MOVE command,
> > even though it's advertised as a capability?
>
> No, there is no way to disable it.

OK. Thanks.


> > Or am I going to have to re-write my filters?
>
> Maybe like adding "[Unset Status] [Read]" to make the message unread, 
> but that really should not be needed.

I've re-written the filters to explicitly do "COPY" then "DELETE" on the
messages to mimic the previous behaviour.  It seems to be OK.  

P.