Re: [Evolution] Feedback

[Ralf Mardorf <ralf mardorf alice-dsl net>]

On Sun, 2013-06-23 at 12:47 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> First, if you have comments about Evolution, then you really need to
> tell us what version of it you are using.

The OP replied using Evolution 3.4.4-2 ;).

Sorry, I won't close and open Evolution again, so I can't mark following
quotes to delete them:

>  Things change rapidly and
> what you are commenting on may not be relevant any more.
>
> > I have numerous problems trying to edit things in emails I am trying to
> > send (addresses, subject lines, the content of the message). Simple
> > typing works fine, but any type of cut and paste operation seems to have
> > strange and unpredictable results. I realize this isn't very helpful,
> > but it is obvious that the editor is trying to be smart about things
> > like email address, signature blocks, and previous messages in a mail
> > thread. What it is trying to do is unclear,
>
> The issues is to do with replying to emails that are in HTML format, and
> in particular the HTML that some clients create.  It is helpful to
> understand HTML, once you do that, you can sort of understand why things
> are happening.  Specifically when inserting text, the pasted text can
> become part of the original HTML structure - if nested DIV blocks are
> involved, the placing of the inserted text can appear to be random.
>
> This happens even if the reply you are typing is in plain text (i.e. not
> HTML) - this is because the underlying editor works on HTML formatting
> if there are HTML codes in the text, it just then presents the text in a
> plain text rendering. (That may be a simplification, but it's how it
> appears.)  You can often see dotted boxes in the text when you are
> editing it - these are the DIV (or whatever) blocks that the editor is
> dealing with.
>
> The solution I have found is to make sure that you press return a few
> times where you want to insert text to make sure there is a blank line
> or two to insert the text into - the editor is intelligent enough to
> "re-HTML" the text when you do that, but not, apparently, when you add
> text.
>
> In general though, I don't find it to be that much of a problem - I
> write hundreds of emails almost exclusively in Evolution and don't often
> have problems.
>
> >  so operations like trying to
> > add paste an additional email address into one of the address lines have
> > strange results, especially when address already exist in a line.
>
> There are strict formats for the address lines - make sure you aren't
> accidentally pasting addressing into the middle of other addresses - you
> just have to be aware of where the cursor is.
>
> >  Trying
> > to paste text after the signature block seems impossible (it always ends
> > up in signature block),
>
> Good.  The signature block comes at the end - any text after the "-- "
> *is* part of the signature block.
>
> >  and trying to copy text from text that was
> > pasted into a message often results in all the previously pasted text
> > disappearing. Personally, I would be happier with a dumb editor that
> > just accepts whatever text I paste into it,
>
> There is a plugin for an external editor, look under Edit -> Plugins
>
> Things may also get better when the WebKit editor gets integrated.
>
>
> > I am looking for a server-centric mail client to replace evolution, so
> > that I don't need to rebuild my address book, signatures, etc. every
> > time I use a different computer, but have not yet found one that is
> > acceptable.
>
> Try gmail.
>
> P.
>
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