On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 14:52 +0200, Peter von Kaehne wrote:
> > Von: "Alberto Ruiz" <
aruiz redhat com>
> > In the meantime, even if less than ideal, we have to cope with the fact
> > that it's distros who distribute Evolution.
> That actually _is_ the ideal way.
> Someone writes a nice programme. Someone else packages it for their
> distribution A and again somebody else for distribution B.
> Instead of running around the internet and chasing multiple download
> pages you do a simple central update with the for your distribution
> typical tools to get a new version.
+1 +1 +1. I cannot imagine any reason at all someone would want to 'go
back' to the old way of
download-and-install, uh oh, it is broken, it
needs that other...
There simply is no problem here to solve.
> Occasionally a distribution will hang behind,
Yes, that is to be expected. It is a problem when they hang WAY WAY
behind, or when they do not provide an avenue for user's who desire more
current [at greater risk] versions. But all the mainstream ones do...
so no problem, again.
> occasionally a distribution will
> ignore a new release and very occasionally a distribution will make a conscious
> choice of not implementing an update. A user can then either choose to
> live with these facts, change distribution or (if they are technically
> able) create their own updated version from sources.
I'd disagree, a *user* cannot "create their own updated version from
sources". A user does not build software; developers do. If you
are
compiling stuff - you are a developer, albeit possibly a very bad one.
> My current main laptop has 2500 programme packages installed. I would
> think this is fairly norm. For the vast majority (2498 packages to be
> exact) I am not in the slightest interested to have the most bang up
> to date version. For the two remaining ones - I am a contributing
> developer, so I compile them from source.
... so you are a developer. The constant swapping of contexts between
user and developer is in part what makes this thread senseless. It is
moving the mileposts while measuring.
If you build software you are a developer; do not confuse yourself with
a user [who has neither the interest nor skills to do such a thing].
For a non-trivial application such as Evolution a non-trivial skill set
is required to build.
> Unless you produce something very special or something
in closed
> source, you would be a fool to replicate half heartedly and half
> arsedly the often considerably well thought through infrastructure of
> a major distribution.
Yep.
> And unless you are desperately waiting for a brand new feature/bug fix
> from a specific package there is no reason whatsoever not to wait for your
> own distribution to update itself. Which it will do at some point.
> Painlessly and unnoticably, usually.
Yep.
--
Adam Tauno Williams <mailto:
awilliam whitemice org> GPG D95ED383
Systems Administrator, Python Developer, LPI / NCLA
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