Re: [Evolution] Future of Evolution

["Job 317" <job317 mailvault com>]

I don't understand your anger. I am a client and user of Evolution. I
believe Novell traditionally does not treat their customers in this
manner.

The "Bounce" function has may useful applications. I believe in my
original post I admitted the exact point you made in that most spammers
either don't look whether e-mail bounces, but likely forge the sending
address anyway. I simply indicated that it could be useful there.

Also, if a user wants plausible deniability in not being notified of an
unpleasant event (say, dinner on Friday with an undesireable
acquaintance), a bounce of their original would make it appear that
either you no longer hold that e-mail address or that, at a minimum, the
server was down preventing delivery.

Also, think of past employers attempting to get you to come back for a
contract that you don't want to deal with.

Many usefull applications of this feature.

Also, why would you ask whether I have developed the PGP-inline feature
for Evolution -- a feature that I know has been requested over and over
again for better overall integration with other PGP-enabled e-mail
services (e.g. Outlook). This question was simply an inquisition, not an
accusation.

It was just a question for the developers. No need to get hot.

Regards,

JOB

On 21-May-2004 19:21:48 +0200, you wrote:
> On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 19:08 +0200, Job 317 wrote:
> > On 21-May-2004 17:57:20 +0200, you wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 16:52, Job 317 wrote:
> > > > Where can I find information about future releases and feature
> > additions
> > > > for Evolution?
> > > >
> > > > Specifically, I am interested in knowing when the next major
release
> > of
> > > > Evolution is due.
> > >
> > > 2.0: Q3
> >
> > Great.
> >
> > > > Third, I would like a Bounce option for SPAM. Is this available?
If
> > not,
> > > > will it be?
> > >
> > > Why would you want to bounce SPAM?
> >
> > Admitedly, a lot of SPAMers these days don't care whether the target
is
> > active or not and don't check. They will likely spoof the source
address
> > anyway. However, it is a nice feature to make the spammer think
that
> > your e-mail address does not exist. Also, other mail clients (e.g.
> > KMail) do currently support this feature.
>
> this is a totally wasteful feature to have. it does nothing but kill
> more bandwidth and create even more amounts of spam. What if the
> original spammer spoofs someone's email address and you hit bounce?
> well, now *that* user gets hit with extra spam... creating a world of
> even more pain and suffering. Besides, do you *really* think they pay
> attention to what addresses bounce? hell no, it's not economical to
do
> so.
>
> it's better to just leave the spam be and get on with your life.
don't
> contribute to the problem.
>
> > Any comment on the PGP-inline feature that I mentioned in my
original
> > post?
>
> have you coded it yet?
>
> Jeff
>
> -- 
> Jeffrey Stedfast
> Evolution Hacker - Novell, Inc.
> fejj ximian com  - www.novell.com