[Evolution] RE: [Evolution-hackers] Feature request list organized

["Tom Musgrove" <TomM pentstar com>]

Thanks for the comments, my responses are inline below...

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[Tom] > Feature: Drag mails to vFolders
[NotZed] Drag to add is doable, drag and move is not.

Drag to add was what I intended, with possibly a default option of hiding
the message from the folder it was dragged from [unless one does a 'copy'
command] thus it would work as if using a regular folder.

[Tom] > Feature: Exception rules for filters
[NotZed] This already works.

I figured so, some of this is from really old messages, I'll remove it

[Tom] > Feature: Duplicate message filter
[Tom] > Feature: Out of order searching

[NotZed] This will be supported by the advanced search dialog.  Quicksearch
is only a substring match.

[Tom] Sounds good

[Tom] > Feature: abbreviation symbol search recognition

[NotZed] This sure sounds like bloat.  This is going to end up one gigantic
app if we keep adding (barely useful) stuff like this.

On the other hand, this might be a feature that is strongly desired by a
significant body of users, if the score for the feature is fairly neutral or
negative, drop it, if not, then it might be worthwhile to have [and it will
probably be something that is supported via a spell checker/thesaurus
anyway, so it would more likely be a case of adding a hooks to the search
request for synonyms...]

[Tom] > Feature: Fuzzy searching (allow misspellings on searches...)
[Tom] > Feature: Synonym searching (different word same meaning)

[NotZed] Oh boy ...
[NotZed] Oh boy again ...

'Oh boy' is a bit cryptic <grin> care to elaborate?  I should mention that
the first is supported in one of the contact managers I use.  Given how
frequently people misspell names and companies [on entry or on
searching...], it can be extremely useful.

[Tom] > Feature: Clustering analysis

[NotZed] MegaBloat(tm)

Given the expected scope of the project I disagree.  Also, this can probably
be implemented as a plugin.

[Tom] > Feature: Document management and tracking

[NotZed] This really isn't part of a mailer/organiser.

Not part of an 'organizer'???? - It isn't part of the Outlook contact
manager.  But that isn't our end goal.  Miguels vision, as presented in a
couple of interviews does appear to be to make it a storage and management
facility for all relevant information, not just email.

[Chuck] > Feature: 'Cleanup' command

[NotZed] vfolders dont store messages, so you can't remove them from the
[NotZed]inbox, otherwise they dont exdist in the vfolder anymore.

[NotZed] The virtual really is virtual.

[NotZed] This feature should probably be 'reapply filters'.

Note that I added 'hiding' to Chucks proposal.  Thus they don't need to be
removed, but I don't want 3 bazillion messages [visually] in the Inbox...

[Rob] > Feature: Delete From vFolder

[NotZed] The fact messages are crossed ou tand not removed from view is
a different matter entirely (and consistent with the rest of
the interface currently).

Agreed, but this behavior should probably be changed so that it is more like
'a real folder'.  For a naive user, this is fairly confusing.

[Ryan] > Feature: 'Common properties' filter construction

[NotZed] Wasn't thi smentioned [sic] somewhere else?

Possibly, my next step is a more thorough weeding and examination of the
various requests and merging those that are similar.

[Ryan] > Feature: More powerful filter syntax

[NotZed] You can already.  you can write your own raw expressions.

Cool, I'll go ahead and remove it

[Ryan] > Feature: Unread email filter/vFolder
[Ryan] > Feature: Un-replied email filter/vFolder
[Ryan] > Feature: Un-dealt with email filter/vFolder

[NotZed] "Filter on flags"  These features are not really separate.

Agreed, I thought I'd put a note that they should be merged, but apparently
not <grin>

[Tom] > Feature: text attachments are not viewed inline

[NotZed] This should only be an option.  Having to save a text attachment to
read it would be 'fucked'.

Agreed, it was meant to be suggested as an option

[Tom] > Feature: Sorting of emails by first or last name or email address

[NotZed] You mean like by clicking on the etable sort bar?

Hadn't noticed it handled both <grin>, I'll go ahead and remove it...

[Tom] > Feature: Summary display of 'new text only'

[NotZed] Oh come on  ...

A better Description of what I desired is to start the summary at the first
new text [mostly because there are those who have a tendency to quote a
whole message, and then add a couple line comment at the bottom]

[Ryan]> Feature: hide read (or unread) email messages

[NotZed] This is a vfolder issue.

I'll move it to the vFolder section then...

[Ryan] > Feature: hide replied to (or un-replied to) email messages
[Ryan] > Feature: hide 'dealt with' (or un-dealt with) email messages

[NotZed] Hmm, these look familiar, yes, they are in the vfoleder section
where they belong.

Then I'll move them to a list of 'already added features'

[Robert] > Feature: Configure threads as 'non-expanded' by default

[NotZed] Addendum: remember thread expansions across sessions.

I'll add the request.

[Misty] > Feature: Printing Emails

[NotZed] Yes remove this :)

Done

[Misty] > Feature: Export to text

[NotZed] i.e. "save message"

yep, I'll remove this as well [I put some in that I planned on removing
later, so that people would 'realize that they've been heard' sort of
thing...]

[Nathan] > Feature: Automatic opening of 'bounced' messages to be resent

[NotZed] Nothing should ever come up automatically, but an option to
resend the offending message is doable.

I think the intent here was that 'bounces' usually happen from misspelled
addresses, thus this would bring your attention to the fact and have it
correctable immediately

[Aaron] > Feature: Full-justified email

[NotZed] html doesn't support that.

bummer, I'll go ahead and remove it. [Someone contact the standards body
<grin>]

[Justin] > Feature: Allow display of message body in proportional font

[NotZed] YUCK!

Agreed!

[Tom] > Feature: Macro/Graphical reply builder from user defined generic =
> paragraphs

[NotZed] Hmm, we need a plugin system for this kind aof fluff.

Agreed

[Tom] > tomm pentstar com, TomM Pentstar com) and query if they should all
be

[NotZed] email addresses are case insensitive anyway, so it would be a bug
if they weren't recognised as equivalent.

It is a common bug in other contact managers, I'll go ahead and remove it...

[Tom] > Feature: Geographic/Time zone mapping

[NotZed] This would have to work worldwide.

True...

[Tom] > Feature: Duplicate/Smart contact recognition

[NotZed] Hmm, that looks like something mentioned above ...

Could you give me the feature name of the other one? and I'll merge 'em

[Numerous] > Feature: Remote access via terminal or xserver

[NotZed] yes, you run a remote x display, its a common thing used in X.

I thought so... actually, I think there was a lot of desire for a CLI to
Evolution, and I inelegantly merged them <grin>.  I'll do a separate CLI
proposal, and drop this one...

[Tom] > Feature: Script evaluation

[NotZed] No, this would be bad.  [...]

I suspected that might be the case... I'll go ahead and drop it.

[Tom] > Feature: Help linked to IRC

[NotZed] Sounds like a nightmare, actually.

Why do you say that??

[Tom] > Feature: Spoken Help

[NotZed] American is SO hard on the ears.

You just have to have the right person speak it to you <grin>

[Aaron] > Feature: Menu Improvement

[NotZed] Yes remove this as well.

will do

[Jeffery and Gregory] > Feature: 'Smart' autocompletion of email addresses

[NotZed] That would suck.

Just because you don't like doesn't mean that a ton of users wouldn't find
it useful...

[John] > Feature: Spell checking of email addresses

[NotZed] That sounds awful too.

again, to each his own.

[Miguel] > Feature: User level settings

[NotZed] Now that is REALLY awful.

Unless your aiming to provide maximum ease of use for newbies and maximum
power for power users.

[Tom] > Feature: Interviewer

[NotZed] Sounds like a good way to scare off users.

Howso?  Just have a 'skip interview' for those who don't want to use it.
This is for corporations that want to save money on retraining, not for joe
user who couldn't care less.

[Tom] > Feature: Multicopy/paste

[NotZed] Doesn't sound practical.

It works great for Outlook 2000 and MS Word

[Tom] > Feature: Interface clones

[NotZed] Ick.

A low effort way to get users of 'non Outlook' contact managers to switch,
well worth it, even if we don't care to use them.

[Tom] > Feature: Cooperative/Timed mail checking

[NotZed] Sounds more like a network configuration problem than one that
should be handled at the application layer.  Flow control and
what not will automatically balance such a system over time anyway.

Okay, if you say so ...

[Tom] > Feature: Smart message retrieval

[NotZed] Yeah this is planned.

I figured so, this is from a really old message, and there was a lot of
positive feedback on it...

[Tom] > Feature: Send immediately button

[NotZed] No.

Why not?


Thanks for the feedback,

Tom M.
TomM pentstar com