Re: [Evolution-hackers] Interface to Junk versus Not Junk buttons

[Not Zed <notzed ximian com>]

On Mon, 2004-11-29 at 14:32 -0800, Joe Kelsey wrote:
> On Mon, 2004-11-29 at 11:39 +0800, Not Zed wrote:
> > On Fri, 2004-11-26 at 13:41 -0800, Joe Kelsey wrote: 
> > > On Thu, 2004-11-25 at 23:27 -0500, Hubert Figuiere wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 2004-11-25 at 15:47 -0800, Joe Kelsey wrote:
> > > > > I want to interface Evolution to my personal spam filter.
> > > > > 
> > > > > How to I make it use my personal spam filter to train on Junk versus
> > > > > Not
> > > > > Junk?
> > > > > 
> > > > > I do not ever intend to use SpamAssassin.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks for any help in this area.
> > > > 
> > > > That best would be probably to write a "spamc" client for your spam
> > > > filter...
> > > 
> > > OK, so how about if I just implement my own personal spam filter which
> > > adds the X-Spam-Flag header to incoming mail?  I really think the whole
> > > spamc/spamd interface just reeks and I do not want to do it.  If
> > > Evolution sees the X-Spam-Flag will it automatically put it in Junk?
> > No it wont, but you can add something that can do it easily.
> > 
> > e.g. you just add your X-Spam-Flag or whatever, and then you have a
> > filter test which sets the junk flag if it is set to the right thing.
>
> I am really sick of this whole concept.  I just want to do something
> simple, but every time I try, Evolution gets in my way.  Why can't you
> just do something simple?  Why do you have to make it complicated at
> every single turn?
If a one line filter script is complex, then perhaps you're trying to reach beyond your skill set.
> > > Also, how do I track down what actually happens when I use the Junk/Not
> > > Junk buttons?  I can tag incoming mail as I want, but *exactly* what
> > > happens when I press Junk or Not Junk?  How does it interact with the
> > > actual junk interface?
> > For this the easist way is similar to the original suggestion, by
> > writing your own sa-learn, or whatever the command is it calls when
> > you press those buttons.
> > 
> > There is no way to 'plug in' new interfaces at present, even though
> > the junk stuff is reasonably modular and is called
> > 'camel-junk-plugin'.
>
> Well, after searching blindly through the mess of source, I finally
> found it in mail/em_junk_filter.c.  What a heaping load of rubbish.
> This is the worst, undocumented pile of carp I have seen in quite a
> while!
Well i'm sure radek will be glad to hear that.
> What are the chances that you will actually allow others to add
> something to this at some time in the future.  As I have said,
> SpamAssassin stinks.  The interface to spamc/spamd stinks.  sa-learn
> stinks.  Evolution junk interface stinks since it is tied exclusively to
> stinking spamassassin.  Unless there is movement away from spam
> assassin, I plan to move away from evolution.
Well, personally - good riddance, we don't need this attitude around here.

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Michael Zucchi <notzed ximian com> "Evolution - Mostly Practiced By Dumb People" Novell's Evolution and Free Software Developer