Re: Community Teams

[Karen Sandler <karen gnome org>]

I've been asked to clarify my response to this. I want to say clearly 
that Jon's message was outside the Code of Conduct, and I spoke to him 
about it off-list. I sincerely hope that there won't be other posts like 
that one in the future, from anyone. While Kat could have been more 
appreciative of the work that Jon has done, the response she got was 
very sarcastic and did not engage in a polite substantive discussion of 
the points. It was not respectful or considerate and did not assume 
people mean well. I am glad that Andre and Seif pointed that out, though 
I think that in this and in cases on other mailing lists it's easy to 
respond with a too negative message. I think a simple warning is 
sufficient, followed by action if necessary upon repeat behavior.  I'm 
also glad that Kat directly addressed it. In any case, I hope we can 
move on from this instance.

The point of my original message is that I think we can learn from this 
and be nicer to each other. I also think we should improve the Code of 
Conduct so there is specific action recommended. Right now it's so vague 
I'm not sure it's helpful (we have a lot of posts that aren't generous 
on gnome lists, for example). As you may have seen, I've suggested it as 
a point of discussion at our next meeting tomorrow if there's time (and 
elsewhere if there isn't). I've also suggested to the board that we 
should improve the Code of Conduct and it is on the agenda for the next 
board meeting.

karen

On 2013-12-04 16:37, Karen Sandler wrote:
> Everyone obviously cares that the engagement team remain the
> supportive and positive place that it is. We've got (generally)
> regular phone meetings that reinforce the personal relationships
> between us and there's a lot of great discussion on the IRC channel. I
> hate to see this mailing list go the way of so many other free
> software lists.
>
> I think it was unfortunate that some of the tones in the thread were
> negative. No matter what, we all need to be respectful and try to be
> as positive as possible. It's tough to find that line where we can
> disagree with someone but do it in a positive and constructive way but
> we should stive for that.  We should be able to always avoid being
> harsh.
>
> Most importantly, awesome work is being done all around which
> shouldn't be overlooked! Engagement activities like cleaning up the
> website and wiki, making redirects, creating promotional materials and
> coordinating participation can be a grind but I think it's fun because
> of who I get to do it with. I'm so encouraged with all of the people
> who have decided to chime in.
>
> Let's resume other parts of this conversation with a little bit more
> benefit of the doubt and supportiveness.
>
> karen