Re: Community Teams

["seiflotfy googlemail com" <seiflotfy gmail com>]

For someone who is trying to shape up a community (User Group) initiative, what you are communicating here with this attitude is just sad IMHO.
1) If everybody on this list acted positive, so I think you should be able to handle a bit of criticism.
2) Not everybody on the list actually discussed the Wiki situation. AFAICT only 3. And its the Wiki that is being criticized not the initiative.
3) Being Snarky, rude and sarcastic during the initiation of such an initiative makes me question how far this will go

My 2 cents for whoever cares..

On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 6:12 AM, Ekaterina Gerasimova <kittykat3756 gmail com> wrote:

Jon, if you do end up moving any of the pages, please make sure to add
redirects. A number of other wiki pages have been moved recently and
because redirects were not added, this has left a lot of broken links
all over the internet.

Which links are broken all over the internet? Yes, I have added many redirects for the page moves. Each one I put in is weighed. I don't think it makes sense to put in a redirect for every single page that is moved for a few reasons. Firstly, since the wiki is pretty good at automatically finding the page when the original link is missing. So, when the page moves laterally or simply down, without changing the name the page suggestions are very good. Secondly, since it somewhat defeats the purpose of cleaning up the wiki if we duplicate every page we want to move. A redirect is a page. These pages show up in search and page listings - however they are not identified as redirects or differentiated from regular pages in any way. This is confusing.

 

This looks really bad and is probably quite
harmful to encouraging participation.

Thank you for your support! I was really hoping that the weeks of effort I've been putting into this will have the intended effect. I was so worried for a while because everyone else seemed to be really positive about the work and thought that it would encourage participation by making things easier to find and generally giving off the impression that we care about our stuff - a well tended garden - broken windows theory and all that... I'm so glad you set us straight. Keep up the good work.

 

I have fixed some of those, but
this is very time consuming after the fact so it would be great if it
was possible to have some sort of script to do it automatically at the
point when pages are moved.

As the person doing the work I can certainly attest to it being time consuming. I appreciate your help redirecting that one link today. (https://wiki.gnome.org/RecentChanges). Too bad we didn't have a script for you.

Jon

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