Re: Campaign Proposal




Nelson:

Coming up with a good campaign requires a lot of discussion, and
takes time to develop properly.  It is tricky to get the associations
right on.

I do think that there is general agreement that associating GNOME with
a positive and humanitarian cause is a good idea.  Also, who does not
like fuzzy animals.

As I suggested before, why don't we pick animals that have recovered
from being extinct, such as the bald eagle, the grizzly bear, the
gray wolf, the green sea turtle, or the Florida panther?

This brings attention to the humanitarian issue and the danger of
animals becoming extinct, but focuses on growth, solution, and
the positive.  This could hopefully create the association that
likewise GNOME is a positive solution to a problem (like freedom
becoming extinct).

Brian


On Tue, 2010-02-23 at 08:51 -0700, Stormy Peters wrote:
So I really don't think that naming releases after endangered species
will make us look like an endangered species. And I think being
associated with cute animals is almost always a good thing.

  Thanks for the support, but I don't believe we should continue this.
Brian's concerns are valid. We might become an endangered species. Like
most Portuguese of my age, I've served in the military (Air Force
Police), my former unit was RESCOM (Rescue&  Combat), we were trained in
incursion and extraction of personnel behind enemy lines. Our badge was
an Iberian Lynx over a dagger, this was how I knew the Iberian Lynx.
That unit had been disbanded in 2004. So, it's a fine example of Brian's
statement, it ended up  by disappearing, and he is right also as we
might be handing free ammunition to all the GNOME haters outside.

  Sort out a theme that doesn't offend no one, I'm willing to place work
on such campaign.

But I do like the idea of picking a humanitarian cause more related to
us. Is there something in the developing world or technology related
that we can link to? Could we pick animals in areas we'd like to help?

Stormy

On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 4:34 AM, Brian Cameron<Brian Cameron sun com>
wrote:

         Nelson:

         I also agree that a humanitarian theme is a something that
         appeals to
         me.  However, picking the names of endangered species may not
         be the
         message that we want to communicate.  This may create the
         undesirable
         association that GNOME itself is an "endangered species".
          This could
         create bad press and ammo for critics.  It would be damaging
         to have
         people start making jokes about GNOME 3.0 being the "Dodo
         Release", for
         example.

         I would prefer to associate GNOME with a humanitarian cause
         that
         also communicates growth rather than being dangerously close
         to
         extinction.  For example, why not name GNOME after a species
         that
         has recovered from being extinct, or with something like solar
         energy.  This communicates a more upbeat and positive message
         about
         the brand, avoids such negative associations, and still
         promotes
         humanitarian issues.

         Brian





                         I appreciate that it's a nice idea to adopt
                         humanitarian causes as a way
                         of having some of the good feelings people
                         have for them to rub off on us.

                         But I really don't like the whole endangered
                         species angle. Let me
                         explain why:

                         I have some more suggestions for names: "Lucid
                         Lynx", "Intrepid Ibex",
                         "Jaunty Jackalope", "Hardy Heron"...

                         I don't mean to put a kybosh on the idea
                         altogether, but the animal name
                         thing isn't really original, given Ubuntu.

                  I couldn't care less. Point me some originality in
                 Ubuntu, and I can
                 consider my position.



                         And the iLynx suggestion in the original
                         proposal seems a but Applish,
                         no? In addition to the "iSomething"
                         convention, Apple has used Cheetah,
                         Puma, Jaguar, Panther, Tiger, Leopard and Snow
                         Leopard as OS X release
                         codenames, so choosing a big cat doesn't seem
                         like a good idea.

                 I've supplied alternatives. I've choosen the Iberian
                 Lynx as a form to
                 translate my thoughts because he lives in Portugal and
                 Spain and he is
                 my neighbor. Didn't felt like loosing time searching
                 for other species.
                 I did flavoured a national cause (Portugal and Spain),
                 because I am
                 Portuguese.


                         One other negative remark - do we really want
                         to have GNOME associated
                         with extinct or almost extinct animals? While
                         the Siberian Tiger, the
                         Iberian Lynx, the Javan Rhino and the Mountain
                         Gorilla make for nice
                         icons, there are almost none left, and their
                         population is in decline.
                         Is that the association we want people to make
                         when they think of GNOME?

                         Anyway - sorry to be the party pooper.

                  Well, it's better than associating it with Genghis
                 Kahn (aka Temujin)
                 the Impaler. Do I see some sense here?

                  And from another point of view: http://www.unep.ch/
                  It is a subject being supported by the United
                 Nations. And even
                 further: http://www.unep.org/awards/>>   Do we have a
                 GNOME Logo there?
                  If such thing happened, what were the benefits GNOME
                 would take from
                 it?

                  My 2 cents,

                  PS: I've offered alternatives, such as the Spider
                 Monkeys and the Red
                 Wolfs during this thread. Spider Monkeys means
                 fighting against the
                 de-florestation of the Amazonian Rain Forest, and Red
                 Wolfs is a US
                 national cause. In case we aint going for the cats.

                  nelson



                         Cheers,
                         Dave.





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