Re: Campaign Proposal




On Tue, 2010-02-23 at 08:51 -0700, Stormy Peters wrote:
So I really don't think that naming releases after endangered species
will make us look like an endangered species. And I think being
associated with cute animals is almost always a good thing. 

 Thanks for the support, but I don't believe we should continue this.
Brian's concerns are valid. We might become an endangered species. Like
most Portuguese of my age, I've served in the military (Air Force
Police), my former unit was RESCOM (Rescue & Combat), we were trained in
incursion and extraction of personnel behind enemy lines. Our badge was
an Iberian Lynx over a dagger, this was how I knew the Iberian Lynx.
That unit had been disbanded in 2004. So, it's a fine example of Brian's
statement, it ended up  by disappearing, and he is right also as we
might be handing free ammunition to all the GNOME haters outside.

 Sort out a theme that doesn't offend no one, I'm willing to place work
on such campaign.

But I do like the idea of picking a humanitarian cause more related to
us. Is there something in the developing world or technology related
that we can link to? Could we pick animals in areas we'd like to help?

Stormy

On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 4:34 AM, Brian Cameron <Brian Cameron sun com>
wrote:
        
        Nelson:
        
        I also agree that a humanitarian theme is a something that
        appeals to
        me.  However, picking the names of endangered species may not
        be the
        message that we want to communicate.  This may create the
        undesirable
        association that GNOME itself is an "endangered species".
         This could
        create bad press and ammo for critics.  It would be damaging
        to have
        people start making jokes about GNOME 3.0 being the "Dodo
        Release", for
        example.
        
        I would prefer to associate GNOME with a humanitarian cause
        that
        also communicates growth rather than being dangerously close
        to
        extinction.  For example, why not name GNOME after a species
        that
        has recovered from being extinct, or with something like solar
        energy.  This communicates a more upbeat and positive message
        about
        the brand, avoids such negative associations, and still
        promotes
        humanitarian issues.
        
        Brian
        
        
        
        
        
                        I appreciate that it's a nice idea to adopt
                        humanitarian causes as a way
                        of having some of the good feelings people
                        have for them to rub off on us.
                        
                        But I really don't like the whole endangered
                        species angle. Let me
                        explain why:
                        
                        I have some more suggestions for names: "Lucid
                        Lynx", "Intrepid Ibex",
                        "Jaunty Jackalope", "Hardy Heron"...
                        
                        I don't mean to put a kybosh on the idea
                        altogether, but the animal name
                        thing isn't really original, given Ubuntu.
                
                 I couldn't care less. Point me some originality in
                Ubuntu, and I can
                consider my position.
                
                
                        
                        And the iLynx suggestion in the original
                        proposal seems a but Applish,
                        no? In addition to the "iSomething"
                        convention, Apple has used Cheetah,
                        Puma, Jaguar, Panther, Tiger, Leopard and Snow
                        Leopard as OS X release
                        codenames, so choosing a big cat doesn't seem
                        like a good idea.
                
                I've supplied alternatives. I've choosen the Iberian
                Lynx as a form to
                translate my thoughts because he lives in Portugal and
                Spain and he is
                my neighbor. Didn't felt like loosing time searching
                for other species.
                I did flavoured a national cause (Portugal and Spain),
                because I am
                Portuguese.
                
                        
                        One other negative remark - do we really want
                        to have GNOME associated
                        with extinct or almost extinct animals? While
                        the Siberian Tiger, the
                        Iberian Lynx, the Javan Rhino and the Mountain
                        Gorilla make for nice
                        icons, there are almost none left, and their
                        population is in decline.
                        Is that the association we want people to make
                        when they think of GNOME?
                        
                        Anyway - sorry to be the party pooper.
                
                 Well, it's better than associating it with Genghis
                Kahn (aka Temujin)
                the Impaler. Do I see some sense here?
                
                 And from another point of view: http://www.unep.ch/
                 It is a subject being supported by the United
                Nations. And even
                further: http://www.unep.org/awards/>>  Do we have a
                GNOME Logo there?
                 If such thing happened, what were the benefits GNOME
                would take from
                it?
                
                 My 2 cents,
                
                 PS: I've offered alternatives, such as the Spider
                Monkeys and the Red
                Wolfs during this thread. Spider Monkeys means
                fighting against the
                de-florestation of the Amazonian Rain Forest, and Red
                Wolfs is a US
                national cause. In case we aint going for the cats.
                
                 nelson
                
                
                        
                        Cheers,
                        Dave.
                        
                
        
        
        
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