Re: [Ekiga-devel-list] Opal 3.6.6 build problem

[László Monda <laci monda hu>]

The current situation of the integration of the most recent Ekiga into
Ubuntu bothers me and I was thinking about possible solutions.

I think valid reasoning can go a long way.  The central reason should
be that Ekiga is the only working SIP client in the whole distribution
and its current version in Ubuntu is clearly broken in many ways so
its mandatory to upgrade to the most recent version in Jaunty.

The question is where should I raise this issue (what communication
channel) where it's the most visible to all the relevant people.

On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 7:26 PM, yannick <sevmek free fr> wrote:
> László Monda a écrit :
>> I'm disappointed about the current situation.
>>
>> How about creating an APT repository for Ekiga and its dependencies
>> for the recent Ubuntu releases?
>
> Done:
> https://launchpad.net/~sevmek/+archive/ekiga-released
> (for Jaunty and Karmic)
> I'm working for 8.04 Hardy, but it is tricky...
>
>>  Would it override the official Ubuntu
>> packages?
>
> You need to add it manually, after that it will overwrite (see the
> description)
>
>>
>> It could be even put to the Ekiga site.
>
> That's the plan, but I've some work to do on ekiga.org first... Should
> be ready in a few weeks.
>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 7:00 PM, yannick <sevmek free fr> wrote:
>>> László Monda a écrit :
>>>> I truly hope they'll have 3.2.6 in Karmic because the bugs in 3.2.0
>>>> could hammer Ekiga's reputation.
>>> Well, IMHO Ubuntu is doing a poor job at quality assurance.
>>>
>>> As member of the Ekiga team and supporting my own daily distro (Ubuntu)
>>> I've a quite long history of bad support in Ubuntu, e.g. see:
>>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ekiga#Gutsy 7.10 Troubleshooting
>>>
>>> The long time before 3.x was included in Ubuntu, or the last event when
>>> Ubuntu replaced Ekiga and Pidgin with Empathy. They involved them quite
>>> early in "usability"
>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EmpathyVsPidginUsability
>>>
>>> They never did publicly a comparison featurewise between ekiga and Empathy:
>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/253765
>>>
>>> SIP is broken in Empathy:
>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/253765/comments/12
>>>
>>> And finaly Ubuntu tested VoIP with Empathy few days ago (they will
>>> release in 1 month...) and VoIP is not reliable:
>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/434878 (see the
>>> reporters, it is Ubuntu internal).
>>>
>>> Thus, the issue here, is not Ekiga's reputation, but Ubuntu's reputation...
>>>
>>> Even If I'm quite disapointed, Ubuntu is the distro I use daily on my 2
>>> computers and I even installed it at work (a primary school)... But I do
>>> not advice people/friends about GNU/Linux much (except one of my friend,
>>> but he is in the computer business...)
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Yannick
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>>
>>
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