Re: thanks for nothing

[Thomas HARDING <tom thomas-harding name>]

On 30/01/2014 20:39, Slavko wrote:
> My description was verbose with the demonstration at once. It was very
> simple, e.g.:
>
> + take look into shape lists and select appropriate one
> + click on shape and click to workplace to add it
> + select proper line type
> + find the connection point (by change the shape color)
> + select text tool
> + add descriptive name
> + here you can enable snap to grid
> + snapping is as this
> + etc

> My students are lazy to read anything (except the facebook ;-) ), they
> have a problem to understand the written description at all. Not, they
> have not a mental problems (i am not sure with this English term),
> but they are modern young people (cca 17-18 years old)...
[I should improve my English too]
<g>
Maybe you could upload that description with (localized) captures on 
Facebook, or, incredibly more fun, by authoring a video (with beer and 
pizza) you'll upload tu Youtube -- screen recording sucks, but if you 
has an old 14" cathodic monitor and, more, you film yourself handi 
webcam /with bearb/, that could rocks ;)
</g>
> I am not sure now, is somewhere the tutorial in "Get started" style?
No, at least in furbished manuals not in the training course step by 
step way.

Actually there is the Dia manual, Chapter 2, entitled "Quickstart" (Dia 
manual is on "help button"), where Chapter 5 would be more relevant to 
actually quickstart the sketch itself.

Unfortunately Chapter 2 is mostly a text synopsis (1 capture only?), 
notably linked back once to another section. Also the Manual  nodes are 
sliced to subsections level and that breaks too much the reading flow on 
most section: sometimes nodes are shorter than that paragraph -- while 
some nodes would be /really/ too verbose once section level sliced.

That is easily tunable on xsl transformation (from Dia sources) as it is 
Docbook (I don't remain if done a switch in the Makefile, but I remain 
Docbook version is 4/xml, so the light combination "xmllint/xsltproc" 
programs will do the drill -- V5 has only xsl shema and xsltproc would 
fail to valid).

Even not fluent in English, don't use the Dia manual/Polish version at 
all as it is really outdated. Even English version has been last revised 
2011.

BTW it is really simple to technically author/compile that bloody doc 
for years. It just need authors :p

Best Regards,
Thomas HARDING