Re: I believe we should reconsider our sys-tray removal

[mcatanzaro gnome org]

On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 12:33 PM, Florian =?iso-8859-1?q?M=FCllner?= 
<fmuellner gnome org> wrote:
> I'm not. The StatusNotifier spec is seriously flawed, and I don't want
> to support it unless at least the issues that were raised ten years
> ago are addressed (the spec was put up for "review" on xdg-list, but
> then any comments were hand-waived away with "if you don't like it,
> don't implement it").
>
> Seriously, the spec is so crappy that there are two implementations
> that are both compliant, but interpret the spec in different and
> incompatible ways (see the implementation-specific handling in [0]).
>
> If we want to support something *like* appindicators, it must be a new
> and fixed API[1] that apps can port to, not the existing API, sorry.

Since this spec is the closest we have to something workable, I think 
it would be productive to define the technical changes GNOME would want 
to see in order to support something close to it. Seems like our 
designers are willing to consider design changes, and the technical 
problems with the status notifier spec look like the biggest hurdles 
currently.

I don't think it's hugely problematic if our solution for status 
notifiers is not backwards-compatible with existing applications. KDE 
can be changed. So can libappindicator. Third-party apps like Dropbox 
will eventually be updated once Ubuntu adopts an hypothetical upstream 
GNOME solution for status notifiers, even if it takes a couple years. 
We don't have to solve everything overnight.

Michael