It's not the default, it's not togglable in System Settings, and it'sOn Mon, 2013-07-08 at 02:52 -0400, Jasper St. Pierre wrote:
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> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 2:48 AM, Bastien Nocera <hadess hadess net>
> wrote:
> On Sun, 2013-07-07 at 15:05 +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
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> > On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 11:01:24AM +0200, Bastien Nocera
> wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2013-07-05 at 08:45 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 2013-07-04 at 16:18 -0500, Michael Catanzaro
> wrote:
> > > > > I haven't seen an app menu (gmenu) discussion in quite
> some time, which
> > > > > is a bit surprising as more apps add them. 3.10 will
> be the fourth
> > > > > release featuring app menus, and by now most GNOME
> applications have
> > > > > one. But the only information on the GNOME wiki seems
> to have been
> > > > > written for GNOME 3.4, and there seem to be some
> issues and
> > > > > inconsistencies with the implementation throughout the
> project.
> > > >
> > > > I've been using GNOME all that time and I'd never
> noticed them.
> > > >
> > > > This is the one in the top panel which, with
> focus-follows-mouse,
> > >
> > > Which is exactly one of the reasons why
> focus-follows-mouse isn't an
> > > option we offer/isn't supported. There's probably plenty
> more things
> > > that don't work well with focus-follows-mouse, so finding
> creative
> > > solutions to those problems might be required.
> >
> > This seems backward. F-f-m was here first,
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>
> Was where first? In GNOME? In metacity? In Unix desktops? In
> Xerox Parc?
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> > and is still being used by some
> > minority (me included). Current designs break f-f-m
> functionality. Your comment
> > about ”finding creative solutions” sounds like F-f-m was
> something new.
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> It's not something new, it's something unsupported.
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> > Designs were made in total ignorance of f-f-m.
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> Because it's unsupported.
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> As someone who works on mutter and gnome-shell, I'm curious: since
> when is it unsupported? I've never heard anybody say this before.
not been designed for. That makes it unsupported.
> > The requirement should be
> > restated as ”finding creative solutions for things that used
> to work”, i.e. things
> > that were already working, were ”solved”.
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