Re: Application menus

[Bastien Nocera <hadess hadess net>]

On Mon, 2013-07-08 at 02:52 -0400, Jasper St. Pierre wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 2:48 AM, Bastien Nocera <hadess hadess net>
> wrote:
>         On Sun, 2013-07-07 at 15:05 +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
>         
>         > On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 11:01:24AM +0200, Bastien Nocera
>         wrote:
>         > > On Fri, 2013-07-05 at 08:45 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
>         > > > On Thu, 2013-07-04 at 16:18 -0500, Michael Catanzaro
>         wrote:
>         > > > > I haven't seen an app menu (gmenu) discussion in quite
>         some time, which
>         > > > > is a bit surprising as more apps add them. 3.10 will
>         be the fourth
>         > > > > release featuring app menus, and by now most GNOME
>         applications have
>         > > > > one. But the only information on the GNOME wiki seems
>         to have been
>         > > > > written for GNOME 3.4, and there seem to be some
>         issues and
>         > > > > inconsistencies with the implementation throughout the
>         project.
>         > > >
>         > > > I've been using GNOME all that time and I'd never
>         noticed them.
>         > > >
>         > > > This is the one in the top panel which, with
>         focus-follows-mouse,
>         > >
>         > > Which is exactly one of the reasons why
>         focus-follows-mouse isn't an
>         > > option we offer/isn't supported. There's probably plenty
>         more things
>         > > that don't work well with focus-follows-mouse, so finding
>         creative
>         > > solutions to those problems might be required.
>         >
>         >   This seems backward. F-f-m was here first,
>         
>         
>         Was where first? In GNOME? In metacity? In Unix desktops? In
>         Xerox Parc?
>         
>         >  and is still being used by some
>         > minority (me included).  Current designs break f-f-m
>         functionality.  Your comment
>         > about ”finding creative solutions” sounds like F-f-m was
>         something new.
>         
>         
>         It's not something new, it's something unsupported.
>         
>         >   Designs were made in total ignorance of f-f-m.
>         
>         
>         Because it's unsupported.
>         
>
>
> As someone who works on mutter and gnome-shell, I'm curious: since
> when is it unsupported? I've never heard anybody say this before.

It's not the default, it's not togglable in System Settings, and it's
not been designed for. That makes it unsupported.

>         >   The requirement should be
>         > restated as ”finding creative solutions for things that used
>         to work”, i.e. things
>         > that were already working, were ”solved”.
>         
>         
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