Re: Application menus

[Bastien Nocera <hadess hadess net>]

On Sun, 2013-07-07 at 15:05 +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 11:01:24AM +0200, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> > On Fri, 2013-07-05 at 08:45 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2013-07-04 at 16:18 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> > > > I haven't seen an app menu (gmenu) discussion in quite some time, which
> > > > is a bit surprising as more apps add them. 3.10 will be the fourth
> > > > release featuring app menus, and by now most GNOME applications have
> > > > one. But the only information on the GNOME wiki seems to have been
> > > > written for GNOME 3.4, and there seem to be some issues and
> > > > inconsistencies with the implementation throughout the project.
> > >
> > > I've been using GNOME all that time and I'd never noticed them.
> > >
> > > This is the one in the top panel which, with focus-follows-mouse,
> >
> > Which is exactly one of the reasons why focus-follows-mouse isn't an
> > option we offer/isn't supported. There's probably plenty more things
> > that don't work well with focus-follows-mouse, so finding creative
> > solutions to those problems might be required.
>
>   This seems backward. F-f-m was here first,

Was where first? In GNOME? In metacity? In Unix desktops? In Xerox Parc?

>  and is still being used by some 
> minority (me included).  Current designs break f-f-m functionality.  Your comment
> about ”finding creative solutions” sounds like F-f-m was something new.

It's not something new, it's something unsupported.

>   Designs were made in total ignorance of f-f-m.

Because it's unsupported.

>   The requirement should be
> restated as ”finding creative solutions for things that used to work”, i.e. things
> that were already working, were ”solved”.