Re: Call to maintainers: GNOME 2.31 to ship GTK 2.90

[Murray Cumming <murrayc murrayc com>]

On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 22:33 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 6:12 AM, Sebastien Bacher <seb128 ubuntu com> wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> >  our one CD constraint will make
> > challenging to ship 2 versions of the GTK stack.
> 
> I would take this a somewhat seriously, if it did not come from the
> distribution that embraced desktop-couch and 60+ M of erlang
> dependencies...
> 
> > Realistically we aim at doing the packaging work and getting GTK3 in
> > shape and in main this cycle but not in the default installation, we
> > have planned the GNOME3 transition for Ubuntu over 2 cycles.
> 
> So the upshot is that GNOME3 will be happening without contributions
> from your side, while your team is busy building their own desktop
> experience with Ayatana and unity. Thats ok, lets just be honest about
> it and stop pretending.

That's not fair. Maybe we've become too used to distros shipping the
very latest upstream code in regular releases and forgotten how lucky we
are that it's possible most of the time.

A little caution around GTK+ 3 seems wise. It's an ABI break requiring
lots of integration work and it's hard for any distro to assume that
GNOME will get it done in time, let alone that the distro will solve all
their own integration problems in time.

And that's not even mentioning the major feature and UI changes from
GNOME Shell.

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