Re: Tracker, Zeitgeist, Couchdb...where is the problem ?
- From: Seif Lotfy <seif lotfy com>
- To: Josselin Mouette <joss debian org>
- Cc: desktop-devel-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: Tracker, Zeitgeist, Couchdb...where is the problem ?
- Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 23:47:57 +0200
- Tracker finds relationships between data over content. Song A
and Song B are form Artist Y who is from the same hometown of Artsit X
- Zeitgeist finds relationships between data over usage. Last week "google.com"
and "Project A" were used alot together. So google is now in
relationship with "Project A". In a month the relationship will expire
because I am done with Project A. So "google.com" is now not in relationship with "Project A"
Zeitgeist is an event aggregation framework that just makes sense
of events happening on the computer. We have a defined format for how
events should be understood. We don't extract metadata ourselves. The
metadata is extracted by the applications that send the events since
they know more about their docs then anything form the outside.
A typical Zeitgeist usecase would be providing documents most used with
other documents or recently used with recent documents. Other usecases
would be notifying applications with events of interests. Such as
notifying parental control with any events with metadata related to
porn etc...
Zeitgeist plays along well with CouchDB and Tracker:
Zeitgeist
aggregats and logs events form apps! We try to make sense of incoming
events (which documents are still open thus share tags etc...)
The
engine uses a felxible DB module that allows us to use any kind of DB.
This is intended to later store individual events into the Tracker
storage and team events into a CouchDB storage.
2009/8/18 Josselin Mouette
<joss debian org>
Le mardi 18 août 2009 à 17:01 -0400, Colin Walters a écrit :
> Tracker the arguments are more complex; I think what they're
> effectively arguing is not that one individual use case but more the
> network effects from having all of them in one database ("where did I
> put that download from the email from Nancy" maybe?). I'm not sure.
> But I won't attempt to summarize the previous thread. I would like to
> see some sample UI though in something.
Well, that sole sentence summarizes the previous thread.
Tracker looks like great technology, but we need to see it in action
before putting it blindly in the desktop. If only 3 of all possible
Tracker uses were implemented in existing desktop applications, we would
be able to clearly tell whether it is worth including.
Cheers,
--
.''`. Josselin Mouette
: :' :
`. `' “I recommend you to learn English in hope that you in
`- future understand things” -- Jörg Schilling
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