Am Donnerstag, den 27.03.2008, 13:21 +0100 schrieb Murray Cumming: > On Thu, 2008-03-27 at 10:37 +0000, Martyn Russell wrote: > > Patryk Zawadzki wrote: > > > So you are basically saying "I'm -1 because of relicensing problems > > > that I'm causing myself?" > > > > Yes, effectively. > > > > As for "relicensing problems that I'm causing myself", I am FULLY at > > liberty to do this. It is/was my free time, my decision to use this > > license and my decision to maintain this license for *my contributions*. > > It is not ultimately down to just me either, I did not write this > > project completely on my own remember. > > > > I am merely pointing out where licensing is currently incorrectly stated > > (which others asked for in this thread) and also that the problem is not > > JUST about relicensing libempathy-gtk, but also libempathy. > > > > > Please point the rest of us to the > > > discussion where Imendio/Gossip staff gives their reasons against > > > LGPL. > > > > Google is your friend :) > > > > This was partly discussed on IRC with Xavier IIRC and also covered here: > > > > http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2007-September/msg00554.html > > Still I see no actual reasons for Imendio not wanting to relicense its > parts of Empathy to LGPL. > > There are several sensible reasons that you _might_ have for this. But > you haven't even hinted at them. Instead you've been rude and abrupt, > repeatedly. This gives the impression that Imendio has some personal > disagreement with Empathy's maintainer and finds it more important to > make his life difficult than to advance the GNOME platform. And this > disagreement appears to be based on some minor procedural disagreement > over who should have done what when. It looks like Imendio is being > petty. > > If this continues then we need to identify the relevant code and > reimplement it, with all the frustration that would cause. Murray, >From what I've read the situation is different. The problem is, that Xavier didn't even ask for re-licensing yet. All the Gossip authors wait for, is Xavier standing up and doing his homework for re-licensing. That means: Identify the copyright holders and formally ask them for re-licensing. Maybe I am naive, but to me it seems that the Gossip authors could agree to re-license, __once they are formally asked__. Xavier had plenty of time for this since the rejection of Telepathy/Empathy for GNOME 2.22. This might sound childish on a first look, but makes a lot of sense: GNOME takes an exposed position in FOSS world. In that situation you really do not want to have any copyright violations in your platform libraries. So far Xavier did show to consider licensing issues important. Ciao, Mathias -- Mathias Hasselmann <mathias openismus com> http://www.openismus.com/ - We can get it done. -- Mathias Hasselmann <mathias hasselmann gmx de> http://taschenorakel.de/mathias/about/
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