On Sun, 2007-09-16 at 09:10 +0100, John Carr wrote: > On Sat, 2007-09-15 at 18:26 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > > On Fri, 2007-09-14 at 21:31 +0200, Ali Sabil wrote: > > > I am wondering why discussion is continuing in the "Git vs SVN (was: > > > Can we improve things?)" thread, why the discussion is not happening > > > here instead ?! > > > > > > I don't want to offend anyone (so take it lightly), but I am afraid > > > that many of us are subject to a "Confirmation bias" ... Can't we just > > > continue the discussion in this thread comparing svn to DRCS in > > > general before deciding on which DRCS would be the most appropriate to > > > use within the GNOME project ? > > > > Because you can't talk about some abstract concept. I can't imagine > > anyone having any remotely legitimate reason to discuss that DSCM > > systems are not good for GNOME. This is simply a corollary of the fact > > that DSCMs provide all functionality that the SCSMs do. So, > > theoretically, you don't lose anything, and gain some. > > How do you set up a master repository with GIT/BZR? Generally it seems > to involve pushing over ssh/sftp? Does that integrate with GNOME > accounts? Does letting people push mean they could push other crap and > hurt the repo? Or have they both gained daemons? Do they have logins > that integrate with gnome accounts? Can one daemon handle multiple > repos? I don't know about git, but bzr has a "smart server" you can use: http://bazaar-vcs.org/SmartServer > Perhaps a legitimate reason is that moving to a DSCM won't be a benefit > to everyone, yet everyone will have to learn another set of tools. Even > just last month someone didnt know how to link to a file in SVN. And in > order to make happy The GIT Crowd (and piss off all the people that just > want to get on with their project) a sugar load of infrastructure needs > to be tossed away. > > Does CIA.vc have bzr/git support? I guess a few GNOME projects must use > it as GNOME is the third most active project today. > > How does buildbot work with bzr/git? The project looks a bit stalled, > but the GNOME buildbot was a great idea that I was hoping to see gain > ground. > > > In practice however, git is too hard and confusing to learn. *That* is > > a reason against this specific DSCM system. > > This is the reason i've been using bzr-svn. Its "svn with benefits" > style suits me very well. The fact is, i'm happy with svn until i'm > stranded without an internet connection, thats with bzr steps in. And > its brilliant. > > > > I am also afraid that we might be just becoming nothing more but "geek > > > fashion" addicts trying to follow the latest RCS tendency without > > > really building solid and constructive arguments ! > > > > I was going to be offended, but you warned :). Now that most probably > > means that you don't hack on the more crowded projects that much... > > Many Gtk+ developers for example could not have been as productive as > > they are right now if it wasn't for git-svn. And that's only a > > half-arsed solution. > > Again, its ok to say something is crap, but please tell us why! "SVN > SUCKS!!" and "GIT FTW!!" aren't very compelling reasons. > > John > > _______________________________________________ > desktop-devel-list mailing list > desktop-devel-list gnome org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
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