- From: Davyd Madeley <davyd madeley id au>
- To: David Zeuthen <david fubar dk>
- Cc: Davyd Madeley <davyd madeley id au>, desktop-devel-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: gnome-screensaver
- Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 23:14:36 +0800
On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 09:21:01AM -0500, David Zeuthen wrote:
> In fact I think GNOME and the software we call GNOME is great (otherwise
> I wouldn't even bother being on this list), and what's even more
> great... is the openness and willingness of the GNOME project, our
> community, to help contributors like Richard (g-p-m) integrate with what
> we call GNOME and deliver kick-ass software. Ditto for a bunch of other
> software like Tomboy, Beagle and so forth. GNOME is doing well.
> Hence, I don't really think there's a huge difference whether you're in
> "that exclusive club" called the "desktop set" or not. While it may have
> made tons of sense back in the day (GNOME 2.0) to have this exclusive
> club... I don't really see the point now... it seems to me that it
> mostly only leads to discussions on whether we bless something or not;
> it leads to exchanging flames like these; hardly very productive..
> I'd much rather that we a) cared about putting new useful stuff in the
> platform and maintained ABI stability; and b) worked even more with
> software authors that for all intents and purposes can be considered
> something every GNOME user wants to install. For b) perhaps this
> includes asking politely to observe freezes and following our time-based
> release approach.
We actually agree on quite a lot. I also think that modules should
not be aiming to get into "Desktop" as their ultimate goal and that
we should be more focused on moving things down into "Platform" and
making them ready for third party developers.
I do however think that GNOME should stand on it's own as a
functional unit and that modules in Desktop should function well
together in a supported and sane manner.
I want to take some time to personally apologise to you and everyone
else I've yelled at recently. The ups and downs of this release have
left me somewhat frayed and frustrated. I have placed a lot of value
in this release and I want it to be perfect, a goal we all share.
You are quite right in saying that I've been overdramatic and
sensationalist, this was somewhat uncalled for. I hope there aren't
too many hard feelings over the way I've behaved in the last couple
of weeks and I hope we can get our remaining issues resolved in the
coming weeks before the release.
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