Re: About applications remembering size

[Manuel Clos <llanero eresmas net>]

Andrew W. Nosenko wrote:
> "from a perspective of a *some* users" will be more correct.  Because, as
> example, I'm very annoyed by auto-remember size behavior, not by "don't
> remember".  Therefore list of "good"/"bad" applications, provided by
> you, is totally inverted from my point of view.

What then? windows always come in the same size? the one the programer 
choose? having to resize a browser window every time you open a new one? 
user run resolutions from 800x600 to 1600x1200.

Gnumeric saving window size for documents will help, but you can't 
(shouldn't) do this for websites.

Perhaps you can illustrate you point with some examples?

> My opinion: any application should have something like
>
>     Remember window size?
>     () always
>     () ask user
>     () never
>
> radio button group.
> Or "[] Auto-remember window size?" checkbox...

No GUI for this please. If it is ever to get implemented, make it a 
gconf key (maybe global and not per app?).

> May be replacing the "... window size" by "... window size, positions
> and opened documents" will be more applicable... -- I can't say because
> have a plans to disable auto-remembering anywhere when this disabling
> become possible.
>
> (There is some points for discussion: e.g. if no opened documents are
> remembered, only window size, then what behavior should be in the
> following scenario:
>
>     1. start application
>     2. open two documents in the two windows
>     3. resize one of windows (says window #2) and leave window #1 untouched.
>     4. close application (Ctrl+Q)
>
> Now is question: when we start application again what size should have
> newly opened window?  Size of "window #1" or "window #2"?)

Easy. You opened window #2 last, so it will close last. Remember the 
size of window #2.

> [ The list of "good"/"bad" applications is skipped ]
>
> : Is people going to fix the apps after we decide to standarize in some 
> : way? inclusion in the HIG?
>
> OK.  But spirit of guidelines should be: "No machine should have control
> over user -- user should have control over machine instead."

:) I agree.

> : Currently the user has no control, this is annoying, and keeps in the 
> : way of just doing work.
>
> Sure.  User should have control.  You annoyed by impossibility to
> *enable* "auto-remember size" for some applications...  I'm annoyed by
> impossibility to *disable* "auto-remember size" for some applications...
> Only one way, which I see, to resolve this opposition is allow to you
> select- and to me deselect this feature.

Go GConf!

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Manuel Clos
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