Re: [Banshee-List] Banshee-by-default in Ubuntu talk - happening now

[Aaron Bockover <abockover novell com>]

Yeah, so I wrote the G1 support because I bought a G1. I use it every
day. It works well.

Hardware support on the whole is not yet implemented in OS X. When the
base hardware abstraction is implemented, the G1 will "just work" on OS
X. It's just a mass storage device.

I hope you try 1.5.0 when it comes out in the next day or so, or the
1.4.4 stable release, also slated for release this week. Or just try git
master. Oh, and file some bugs.

--Aaron

On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 13:49 -0700, tretle wrote:
> Go ask Moch the lead developer behind rythmbox, what ratio of bugs get
> attention from forums and mailing lists as aposed to bugzilla and I think
> you will get a shock.
> Reporting bugs is not unique to banshee, everyone has to do it.
> Especially with open source software, people are talking time out of their
> own lives to develop open software for us to use and they do not have the
> time to look for bugs from multiple different outlets.
> With regards to G1 support, I dont have one yet as they dont sell any
> android phones in Ireland atm :( But I have seen either gabaug or abock(cant
> remember) warn people that g1 support was not working on all builds. From
> what I can remember they said it was not working on the osx build.
> If it does not work atm I would assume it was down to a firmware update on
> the g1.
> Now for the subject at hand, I really do hope banshee becomes the deafault,
> Is there anyone from the banshee team representing it at UDS? 
> As for possible regressions, upnp support, magnatne/jamendo store's. I would
> assume that the vis work will definately be ready in time so that wont be on
> the list.
> 
> 
> rickstone wrote:
> > 
> > Well, I don't agree, but fair enough.  We can have differing opinions on
> > this subject, though I have yet to see a single response that actually
> > speaks to the three points that I made in my original post.  Three major
> > advertised functions are broken.  This alone is enough for me to voice my
> > opinion that Banshee isn't yet ready to be the default player in Ubuntu.
> > 
> > I have never once in 5 years of using different Linux distros ever been
> > told to file a bug rather than being offering some assistance on a forum
> > or mailing list.  I have always thought that this was part of the point of
> > forums and mailing lists.  
> > 
> > You may have filed a bug, which is great if that's how you want to spend
> > your time, but you haven't yet offered any positive info, only smarmy
> > retorts.
> > 
> > 
> > Patryk Zawadzki wrote:
> >> 
> >> On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 10:10 PM, rickstone <rhadenstone gmail com>
> >> wrote:
> >>> I'm sorry if some people think that the truth (and the request for
> >>> intelligent input and responses) is FUD.  I have asked here many times
> >>> for
> >>> input on these issues and have received responses similar to the these.
> >>> This is sad.  A logical response offering some assistance or possibly
> >>> asking
> >>> further questions IS appropriate.  Simply telling someone to "file a
> >>> bug" is
> >>> not helpful or appropriate.  Not every user wants to or has time to file
> >>> bugs.
> >> 
> >> Don't take it personally but "not every user wants to file bugs" is
> >> pretty much equal to "I know it's broken and I don't care". I'm not a
> >> Banshee dev but please remember that your "precious" time of a user is
> >> worth much less than the time of developers - simply because there is
> >> always more users than developers.
> >> 
> >> Seriously, if you refuse to spend 5 minutes to report a bug you can't
> >> demand for someone else to spend hours and fix the bug. At least not
> >> while keeping a straight face.
> >> 
> >> See what I did there? I filed a bug in rhythmbox instead of going to
> >> their list and telling everyone how rhythmbox is a disaster and fails
> >> to deliver what it promises. Do the same here :)
> >> 
> >> -- 
> >> Patryk Zawadzki
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> >> 
> >> 
> > 
> > 
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