Re: [Banshee-List] Replacement for current volume slider

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Chow Loong Jin wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-02-02 at 17:55 +0100, Christoph Burgdorf wrote:
>   
> > Well, I think adjusting the volume is one of the common things that a
> > multimedia software should be able to handle easily. And its not only a
> > queston of taste but also of usability. To adjust the volume with the
> > current slider you will need two clicks and one dragging action while
> > you would need only one dragging action with a horizontal slider. To see
> > the current volume you need two clicks instead of zero clicks with a
> > horizontal slider.
> >     
> Ever tried scrolling while hovering over the button? I think it's cool
> like that already =)
>   
Do you really think a normal user would think about scrolling on a 
button? I didn't - so thanks for the hint ;)
To me the gnome way would not be that bad when the slider would show up 
as soon as I hover over the button.
> > > Ultimately, I'd think this would be the kind of thing that would
> > > benefit from some HCI studies and should really start on a fundamental
> > > GNOME level before being changed by individual applications;
> > > consistency with the entire desktop has been the biggest argument
> > > against such changes thus far.
> > >       
> > I understand that, BUT with banshee 1.4 we have a OSX version ready
> > while the windows version is on the way. I think banshee should also
> > think outside the own box. Outside of the GNOME land I havent seen an
> > audio/video player using something different than an horizontal slider.
> >     
> Ah, but Banshee is a GNOME app. And that makes all the difference.
>   
You are missing the point. If there is a OSX version and a Windows 
version it's a Multiplatform App - and the behaviour is specific to gnome.
> > > Also, FWIW, I never use my Banshee/Rhythmbox/Totem sliders, ultimately
> > > using the GNOME system volume control, via the panel applet and/or the
> > >
> > >
> > > keyboard volume controls on my computer.
> > For me, its the other way around. I mostly adjust the volume within
> > banshee trying not to change the global system settings.
> >
> >     
> I too usually adjust the global controls, and if ever I need to adjust
> individual apps, I open pavucontrol. But that's just me using
> PulseAudio. I understand that without PulseAudio you'd have to poke
> around inside Banshee for volume control.
>   
Again - would a normal user do such a thing? I think not. They were 
trained to adjust in the app (which is crappy design - but that's the 
situation we're stuck with).

ym2c