Re: [Banshee-List] Help needed on Banshee

["Christopher Halse Rogers" <chalserogers gmail com>]

On 8/18/06, SoftRomu <softromu hotmail com> wrote:
> Thanks for the help.
>
> I've added, into Sound Juicer, the command specified in the CDRipping Ubuntu
> wiki :
> audio/x-raw-int,rate=44100,channels=2 ! faac ! ffmux_mp4
>
> I've read some mail exchange:
> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/banshee-list/2006-March/msg00047.html
>
> Where they say: this will never work while faac won't be corrected.
>
> It seems faac produces some files which contains only raw information, this
> information must be packaged into a real usable .m4a file, but I don't know
> how.

Faac *always* produces such files.  The ffmux_mp4 should be packaging
the raw AAC stream into a valid MP4/m4a file, though.

> So the question is not Banshee but: did someone get some succes while
> ripping in AAC? And how?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Christopher Halse Rogers" <chalserogers gmail com>
> To: <banshee-list gnome org>
> Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 2:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [Banshee-List] Help needed on Banshee
>
>
> > On 8/18/06, SoftRomu <softromu hotmail com> wrote:
> >> > So, I did some test.
> >> >
> >> > I encoded some track(s) in AAC with WinAmp, and the tracks are well
> >> > read
> >> > with Banshee, great !!
> >> >
> >> > But encoding doesn't work with Banshee and Sound Juicer. Some mp4
> >> > (Banshee) or m4a (Sound Juicer) are create with some not weird sizes.
> >> > But
> >> > when I try to read them I always get a message like "Can't determine
> >> > the
> >> > flow".
> >
> > I'd make sure that you've got a "ffmux_mp4" element in the GST
> > pipeline just before the filesink.  For SoundJuicer, you'd want a
> > pipeline like "faac ! ffmux_mp4".  Plus, you might want to add some
> > options to the faac element, like bitrate or whatever.
> >
> >> >
> >> > When I try to read these files directly in the command line "faad
> >> > myfile.m4a", I get the message "Gain control not yet implemented".
> >> >
> >> > Any idea ?
> >> >
> >> > Any way thanks for the help.
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "SoftRomu" <softromu hotmail com>
> >> > To: <banshee-list gnome org>
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 10:56 AM
> >> > Subject: Re: [Banshee-List] Help needed on Banshee
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Ok thanks a lot.
> >> >>
> >> >> I'll test this ASAP and post a feedback. Stay tuned.
> >> >>
> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> From: "Christopher Halse Rogers" <chalserogers gmail com>
> >> >> To: <banshee-list gnome org>
> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 10:33 AM
> >> >> Subject: Re: [Banshee-List] Help needed on Banshee
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>> On 8/16/06, SoftRomu <softromu hotmail com> wrote:
> >> >>>> If I well understand you, it would be possible to:
> >> >>>> - encode in AAC for let's say Sound Juicer using GST 8.0 AAC plugins
> >> >>>> - use Banshee to playback the m4a files produced by Sound Juicer
> >> >>>> - use Banshee to download these m4a files to the iPod.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> This should work fine.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Am I wrong?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Of course this is the workaround while waiting a complete Banshee
> >> >>>> solution.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >>>> From: "Christopher Halse Rogers" <chalserogers gmail com>
> >> >>>> To: <banshee-list gnome org>
> >> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 9:55 AM
> >> >>>> Subject: Re: [Banshee-List] Help needed on Banshee
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> > On 8/16/06, SoftRomu <softromu hotmail com> wrote:
> >> >>>> >> Thanks for this quick answer.
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> Ok for gstreamer 0.10.
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> The Banshee FAQ says we can get AAC support with some GStreamer
> >> >>>> >> 0.8
> >> >>>> >> packages
> >> >>>> >> (http://banshee-project.org/Distributions/Ubuntu). Does this work
> >> >>>> >> for
> >> >>>> >> AAC
> >> >>>> >> encoding and playback? Or must I forget AAC for time?
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > Playback of valid mp4/m4a is fine with GST 0.10.  You just can't
> >> >>>> > encode to AAC correctly.
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > The ffmux_mp4 element exists, and works for GST 0.8, so you can
> >> >>>> > make
> >> >>>> > valid mp4/m4a files with GST 0.8.  I'm not sure whether Banshee
> >> >>>> > ever
> >> >>>> > correctly encoded to AAC, though it would be (easily) possible to
> >> >>>> > fix.
> >> >>>> > However, the GST 0.8 backend is deprecated, I think, so you'll
> >> >>>> > need
> >> >>>> > to specifically build Banshee with GST 0.8 support if you want
> >> >>>> > Banshee
> >> >>>> > to encode to AAC.
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >>>> >> From: "Christopher Halse Rogers" <chalserogers gmail com>
> >> >>>> >> To: <banshee-list gnome org>
> >> >>>> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 9:21 AM
> >> >>>> >> Subject: Re: [Banshee-List] Help needed on Banshee
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> > On 8/16/06, SoftRomu <softromu hotmail com> wrote:
> >> >>>> >> >>
> >> >>>> >> >>
> >> >>>> >> >> Dear all,
> >> >>>> >> >> i'm quite new to banshee and I need some help to use it with
> >> >>>> >> >> my
> >> >>>> >> >> 5G
> >> >>>> >> >> iPod.
> >> >>>> >> >>
> >> >>>> >> >> First question:
> >> >>>> >> >> what's the purpose of having a normal encoding profile and an
> >> >>>> >> >> iPod
> >> >>>> >> >> one?
> >> >>>> >> >> And
> >> >>>> >> >> how does this work? Just drag & drop CD content on my iPod?
> >> >>>> >> >
> >> >>>> >> > The normal encoding profile is what Banshee imports your CDs
> >> >>>> >> > with,
> >> >>>> >> > the
> >> >>>> >> > iPod profile is what Banshee will use to transcode your tracks
> >> >>>> >> > (from
> >> >>>> >> > your library) before transferring to your iPod (or other
> >> >>>> >> > portable
> >> >>>> >> > player).
> >> >>>> >> >
> >> >>>> >> >>
> >> >>>> >> >> Second question:
> >> >>>> >> >> How can I encore my CD in AAC? I've read dozens of tuto and
> >> >>>> >> >> FAQ
> >> >>>> >> >> and...I
> >> >>>> >> >> can
> >> >>>> >> >> produce m4a files with sound juicer but I can't play these
> >> >>>> >> >> files
> >> >>>> >> >> with
> >> >>>> >> >> Rythmbox or Banshee: "format not supported', or "not a audio
> >> >>>> >> >> MPEG4
> >> >>>> >> >> file"...
> >> >>>> >> >
> >> >>>> >> > At the moment, you can't produce valid m4a/mp4 files with
> >> >>>> >> > GStreamer
> >> >>>> >> > 0.10 - the faac GST element produces an AAC stream well enough,
> >> >>>> >> > but
> >> >>>> >> > there's no mp4 muxer (basically, something that writes "here's
> >> >>>> >> > the
> >> >>>> >> > start of this bit, it's 200 samples long, 12KB"), and without
> >> >>>> >> > that
> >> >>>> >> > information it's impossible to play the stream.  This will work
> >> >>>> >> > as
> >> >>>> >> > soon as
> >> >>>> >> > 1) Someone writes an MP4 muxer for GStreamer
> >> >>>> >> > 2) Someone fixes the ff_mux elements, because FFmpeg has an mp4
> >> >>>> >> > muxer.
> >> >>>> >> >
> >> >>>> >> >>
> >> >>>> >> >> Thanks for your help.
> >> >>>> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >> >>>> >> >> Banshee-list mailing list
> >> >>>> >> >> Banshee-list gnome org
> >> >>>> >> >> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/banshee-list
> >> >>>> >> >>
> >> >>>> >> >>
> >> >>>> >> >>
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> >> >>>> >> >
> >> >>>> >>
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