On Thursday 25 October 2012 15:27:59 Luke Benstead wrote: > On 25 October 2012 15:23, Jasper St. Pierre <jstpierre mecheye net> wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Nathaniel Smith <njs pobox com> wrote: > > > > ... snip ... > > > > > Yes, everyone agrees on that. But games are going to keep changing > > > resolution no matter what you write on this mailing list, so the > > > question is whether there's anything that can be done to make the > > > users less angry when it happens. (And they will also be angry if > > > their games don't support changing resolutions.) Certainly KWin is > > > potentially in a better place to see that manual layouts and things > > > don't get broken than a random SDL program is... if you can't preserve > > > manual layouts, then who should the game developers be talking to > > > instead? > > > > I don't see how this proposal helps, then: either games have to be > > updated to care about the new _NET_WM_STATE value, or they have to be > > updated to not set the user's resolution. > > I started a similar discussion to this on the Wayland mailing list a couple > of years ago, I thought some of the discussion there might be relevant: > http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/wayland-devel/2010-November/000080.htm > l > > Specifically, the idea about not actually changing the resolution, but > rendering to a buffer of the correct size (resolution) and upscaling it > with appropriate black-barring to account aspect ratio differences. not read your thread on the Wayland mailing list, but that sounds exactly like the way to go. And that would also be the way to implement it in X11 if we just had the input redirection, though there would be tricks to do that. Only disadvantage: no unredirection of fullscreen windows would be possible then. Cheers Martin > > Luke. > > > -n > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > wm-spec-list mailing list > > > wm-spec-list gnome org > > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/wm-spec-list > > > > -- > > > > Jasper > > > > _______________________________________________ > > wm-spec-list mailing list > > wm-spec-list gnome org > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/wm-spec-list
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