Re: Still need a hint for undecorated windows

[Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <raster rasterman com>]

On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:01:05 +0200 Bradley T Hughes <bhughes trolltech com>
babbled:

> Indeed.  This is something that comes up quite often in our bug reports
> and support requests.  People want to do this, and our answer always has
> to be "On X11, the window manager may ignore the borderless hint." I
> don't think it's necessary to be able to control individual decorations
> like you could using _MOTIF_WM_HINTS, but the possibility of turning off
>  all decorations is sorely needed.  I, for one, would also like to see
> more policy spelled out for the various window types, but I'll leave
> that discussion for another day.

i'd vote mwm hints are seen as explicit if present, and if not the type is a
hint and the wm may do whatever it wants.

btw - whats up with qt's icccm take_focus handling? if you send a take_focus
client message (as per icccm) WITHOUT first setting the focus on the window - qt
doesnt honor the request and take the focus (even though it advertises that it
does take focus protocol). the icccm doesnt say the window must have been
focused first :) have i monumentally misunderstood the icccm or is there some
deeper meaning behind doing this?

ie this works:
                  ecore_x_window_focus(bd->client.win);
                  ecore_x_icccm_take_focus_send(bd->client.win,
ecore_x_current_time_get());

this does not:
                  ecore_x_icccm_take_focus_send(bd->client.win,
ecore_x_current_time_get());

gtk advertises take focus proto and it does work with this. is it possible you
guys have a bug? :)


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