Re: Still need a hint for undecorated windows

[Philipp Lohmann - Sun Germany - ham02 - Hamburg <Philipp Lohmann Sun COM>]

Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 10:42:56 +0200 Philipp Lohmann - Sun Germany - ham02 -
> Hamburg <Philipp Lohmann Sun COM> babbled:
> 
> 
>>I'd not coin that "want to" but "have to". OOo's popups worked without 
>>grabbing the focus until WMs came up with the "Focus exactly under 
>>mouse" mode which in fact puts the focus even into an override redirect 
>>window and removing it from the corresponding application window. This 
>>not only would make OOo close the popup again (arguably OOo's fault) but 
>>would also display the application window as inactive. In theory there 
>>is no deed to grab the pointer while a popup menu is open; in reality 
>>WMs make it necessary.
> 
> 
> actually multiple apps/clients make it necessary - not wm's :)
> 
> scenario:
> in app i click on titlebar (and quickly release mouse button). standard
> behavior: menu pops up.
> now... i go mousing around the screen moving into another app's window, pop up
> ITS menu this way... then i go do some similar things. before you know it the
> screen is pure anarchy. you need to grab both mouse and keyboard to stop
> anything else getting input events at all until the menu is done. :) so arguable
> this was an ooo bug from the point of design. :)

Not really. As i said the popups would close when the application window
lost focus. When you go "mousing around" as you say that's exactly what
should happen, either because you click into another application or
because there's one of the "focus follows mouse" variants active.

> nb - its not that wm's set focus TO the override redirect window - they see the
> mouse EXIT the app window for a reason other than a grab and go "ooh - mouse
> exited the app - must remove focus" and so ooo loses the focus - thus control
> over keyboard and thus decided it is time to give up on menus :)

That's your theory. The XEvents i received said that the popup got the
focus. With all due respect i'll trust the Xserver more than your theory ;-)

Kind regards, pl

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