Re: Still need a hint for undecorated windows

[Philipp Lohmann - Sun Germany - ham02 - Hamburg <Philipp Lohmann Sun COM>]

Havoc Pennington wrote:
> On Thu, 2005-06-30 at 21:33 +0100, Bill Haneman wrote:

> Popup menus as they currently work can't be window managed, because the
> toolkit wants to grab the keyboard/mouse (and if you let the WM delay
> the window mapping, there's a race condition where you have to wait for
> the map prior to the grab).

I'd not coin that "want to" but "have to". OOo's popups worked without 
grabbing the focus until WMs came up with the "Focus exactly under 
mouse" mode which in fact puts the focus even into an override redirect 
window and removing it from the corresponding application window. This 
not only would make OOo close the popup again (arguably OOo's fault) but 
would also display the application window as inactive. In theory there 
is no deed to grab the pointer while a popup menu is open; in reality 
WMs make it necessary.

> To do popup menus as managed a couple things are needed:
>  - they have to behave in Windows style (pop down on unfocus) 
>    rather than current "pop down on click elsewhere"

As you can see at least some applications have that already :-)

>  - a new _NET_WM_TYPE so window managers don't try to place
>    the menu or other such screwups

Just my 2 cents, pl

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