Re: [Vala] valaDevelop

[Wolfgang Mauer <wolfgang mauer kabelmail de>]

Maybe a bit cynical:Idon't blame others !!!!

When I became aware of vala last year, I was looking for an IDE and 
found valaIDE and valama and others.
With fright I had to realize that all these OPENSOURCE projects no 
longer work with modern systems.
No one has enhanced or fixed something, even though it's open source!


That's why I decided against opensource, so that's not the case with my 
IDE, which was first written in C# by the way.


I did not expect that it comes to such a rejection.
I had rather expected that I get applause for a working IDE.
But, it always comes differently than you think...



Am 10.05.19 um 16:07 schrieb rastersoft:

> I'm afraid that I have to disagree with you: you didn't provide any 
> kind of source code. Yes, you published the generated .c files, but 
> those aren't the source code, I can't use that to fix a bug or add new 
> features (well, I can try, but doing that would be nearly as hard as 
> fixing a binary executable with a disassembler and an hexadecimal 
> editor). So those "source files" are completely useless.
>
> Also, I think that the problem IS that it wasn't open source, and your 
> depart shows precisely why: the only person with access to the source 
> code leaves the project and it dies, leaving all the current users 
> with just a binary that can't be enhanced or fixed, and that sooner or 
> later will stop working on modern systems. I lived this several times, 
> and that's why I decided to not use valadevelop. Yes, I tested it and 
> it was good, but I didn't want to be left again trapped with a dead 
> project.
>
> Of course, it is your code and you are the only one with the right to 
> decide what to do with it; but if you make a decision, don't blame 
> others.
>
> El 10/5/19 a las 15:35, Wolfgang Mauer escribió:
> > I'm sorry, maybe it's because I work in a big software company and 
> > get paid for my development, so the "spirit" of open source........
> >
> > If the source I provided is not enough, you'll probably have to 
> > continue hoping/waiting for better IDE.
> >
> >
> > Am 10.05.19 um 15:18 schrieb Luca Dionisi via vala-list:
> > > +1
> > > I use Gnome Builder, but I am always in search of better free software
> > > alternatives.
> > >
> > > On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 3:17 PM Dr. Michael Lauer 
> > > <mickey vanille de> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Well, I can imagine that it would have generated more feedback if 
> > > > it was
> > > > developed
> > > > in the open. Most (of the few) Vala developers have strong roots in 
> > > > open
> > > > source and
> > > > – although not as comfortable as ValaDevelop – there are 
> > > > „alternatives"
> > > > out there which
> > > > are completely open.
> > > >
> > > > That said, Wolfgang, if you no longer want to work on it, why not 
> > > > free it
> > > > at last and upload
> > > > the source?
> > > >
> > > > Best regards for the future,
> > > >
> > > > :M:
> > > >
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