Re: [Usability] Overthinking things.
- From: kerberos piestar net
- To: usability gnome org
- Subject: Re: [Usability] Overthinking things.
- Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 00:03:36 +0000
Quoting Andre Klapper <ak-47 gmx net>:
Am Mittwoch, den 09.12.2009, 16:05 +0000 schrieb kerberos piestar net:
There are generally only forums for support, and then they are
generally problem solving. New ideas and bugs have no real place in
any of the forums I have ever visited
Repeating your statements does not make them more true. I've already
mentioned Brainstorms and provided links to two of them.
andre
Dell recently had a serious issue with a range of it's computers
causing massive throttling of it's CPU's and a resulting performance
drop due to even slight thermal issues. It's first response to
complaints on the forum was to delete said posts. I am sure that
since there are probably proper support channels this is the correct
behaviour and the people who were angry at Dell for doing so were
simply misinformed. Don't you agree?
Anyway brainstorm, as I have said, is largely irrelevant for the
following reasons:
1: It's fairly well buried. You will only find it if you look for it
while the forums are generally a first port of call.
2: They commonly do not understand the problem. Most people do not
understand the system well enough to identify the exact usability
issue they are facing, or even that they are facing one. Often they
declare some software 'sucks' without a tangible reason why and you
then have to get out of them where they are having a problem and
details to figure out the exact issue. I actually did a callout at a
company once where the 'tech guy' claimed that some form fields not
being autopopulated was due to the 'monitor refresh rate'. It was
actually due to the 50%+ packetloss from him using cheap phone cable
rather than CAT5 for networking. And that was the companies resident
techie. How normal users are meant to do better I have no idea.
3: Even if they do understand where the issue is brainstorm and other
ideapits require you to understand it well enough to formulate, write
up and submit a solution. I would estimate the amount of first timers
that will ever make it to this point would be astronomically low.
4: Ranting is cathartic. Once someone has vented about everything
that is bothering them they will generally be more willing, productive
and will probably try to meet you half way. Telling them they are
wrong, deleting posts, closing posts and banning users just guarantees
that they will never use your product again.
The great thing about giving people a targeted outlet for general
complaining is you can identify problems by aggregate. 13.7% of
people are complaining about video driver related issues - lets look
into that. 8.7% have difficulties mounting partitions - that must be
important. 0.2% can't figure out how to set the date/time - lets
leave that one 'till later.
As I stated Microsoft's development of Windows 7 was probably run in a
slightly similar fashion - that is getting a massive list of
everything people complained about, ordering it by priority and then
taking action. The massive hate for Vista, generally from people who
were just looking for a reason to find fault, helped Microsoft more
than any internal usability test possibly could. They had half the
internet forming a massive bug and usability search and report system,
giving hundreds of thousands of valuable feedback points for them to
work from. Desiring to supress criticism is a massive own-goal - just
because you've got the unhappy people to shut up doesn't mean that
they are now happy.
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Just to pre-empt any replies on the issue of the supression of
criticism, if you think I am wrong go to the Ubuntuforums and let me
know where discussions of issues I have with the OS can take place.
As far as I can tell there is no such forum. The closest match is
"Ubuntu Testimonials & Experiences", but they then categorically state
'No Debate'. The first post is this: [SOLVED] Leaving Ubuntu or
Frustrated? Read This..., which then goes on to list a bunch of links
to howto's, implying the usual 'There is nothing wrong with Ubuntu,
you're just are too stupid to work it, (RTFM)'. I can tell you every
time I have mentioned something is a problem the answer is invariably
along the lines of 'You just don't understand it. You're thinking in
the Windows way still'. It's incredibly frustrating not to mention
insulting.
Has anyone read Linuxhaters blog? Despite having a massive drop in
quality recently it is probably one of the most popular blogs on
Blogger, with thousands of posts commonly even breaking Blogger itself
as it simply can't cope with the volume. I imagine a large volume of
the people who post there were people who tried Linux and got the
usual STFU + RTFM replies, who didn't fancy carefully documenting,
cataloguing and submitting things which should have (and were claimed
to be) working in the first place.
Hey, I just think that if people want to rant about problems with
Linux they should be given an outlet as the very worst that could
happen is they may point out something useful. I don't think Linux
itself could get offended or upset about it as it's just a chunk of
source code, just like every single other in existance and there is no
need to get offended on it's behalf. That's my opinion and if you
want to believe that everything is hunky-dory and cannot be improved
that is yours, and we agree to disagree.
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