Re: [Usability] GNOME Command line interface

[SzG <sub o gero gmail com>]

Shaun McCance wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-08-10 at 20:41 -0400, Philip Ganchev wrote:
>   
> > On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Shaun McCance<shaunm gnome org> wrote:
> >     
> > > On Mon, 2009-08-10 at 22:39 +0200, SzG wrote:
> > >       
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > Yes I agree, there is a built-in solution for each use case. But I'm so
> > > > extremely lazy that I preferred working day and night on my "go" script
> > > > instead of having to memorize a few hotkeys. But now it's paradise!
> > > >
> > > > One remark: typing "foo" in a terminal will start the GTK application
> > > > "foo", but you will have 2 problems:
> > > >
> > > >     * your terminal gets blocked while "foo" is running
> > > >     * closing your terminal will kill "foo"
> > > >
> > > > But "go foo" will do the job perfectly.
> > > >         
> > > So will "foo&".  I don't want to rain on your parade, because
> > > this seems like a neat project.  But it seems to me that the
> > > reason the "start" command on Windows needs to handle programs
> > > is that it's hard to launch programs otherwise.  It's a solution
> > > for a problem that we don't have.
> > >       
> > Not only. It's also a solution to problems like "What program do I use
> > to open PDFs again? PDF... PDF... XPDF? No, this is Gnome. Guess I
> > have to mouse through the main menu... Oh of course! Evince - how
> > could I forget?  evince mydocument.pdf." Similar problems exist for
> > ps, all image types, html, "office" document formats, and even text.
> > Why do I have to think about what program to use, when >90% of the
> > cases all I want to do with a PDF document is to display it with the
> > default PDF viewer? Similarly for office documents, etc.
> >     
>
> Sorry, perhaps I didn't say what I meant clearly enough.
> I'm not disputing the utility of a program that can launch
> the right application for a given file or URL.  In fact, I
> use gnome-open fairly frequently for exactly that.
>
> I'm saying I don't see the value in running the *program*
> foo with "go foo", instead of just "foo".  Unlike on Windows,
> applications on *nix systems have a binary installed in the
> executable path.  You don't need an extra program to run
> them.  You just run them.
>
> Is that more clear?
>
> --
> Shaun
>
>
>
>   

Hello,

"Just run them" works, but I want to run them in a new window. So I have 
to solve 3 little problems:

   * the starting terminal shall not be blocked
   * the started program shall not get killed by closing the starting
     terminal
   * terminal/GTK programs shall be started differently, as a
     terminal-program shall be started through gnome-terminal, nut just run

But the main problem is I'm extremely lazy. I don't want to aim with the 
mouse. I don't want to type "gnome-terminal -e mc & disown". I don't 
want to remember that with a GTK program it's just "gimp & disown". If a 
machine can do this for me, let the machine do it. ;-)

Best regards
Gergely