[Usability] Re: any menu editor suggestions?



Could we have an option for keeping a keyboard shortcut for an application?

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Subject: Usability Digest, Vol 11, Issue 1
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 12:01:48 -0500 (EST)

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> 1. Re: any menu editor suggestions? (Alan Horkan)
> 2. Re: any menu editor suggestions? (Christian Neumair)
> 3. Re: User centered redesign of desktop preferences
> (maarten menheere)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 18:44:44 +0000 (GMT)
> From: Alan Horkan
> Subject: Re: [Usability] any menu editor suggestions?
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> On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, Christian Neumair wrote:
>
> > Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 17:45:30 +0100
> > From: Christian Neumair
> > To: usability gnome org
> > Subject: [Usability] any menu editor suggestions?
> >
> > I've just released the first tarball [1] of gnome-menu-editor (read [2]
> > if you want to download and try it out). You can see a screenshot of it
> > under [3]; it is coded after a proposal of Calum [4] we discussed under
> > [5]; I already provided a mockup tarball in May.
> >
> > The way it works is pretty simple: You select a bunch of menus on the
> > left pane you want to display on the right pane, where you can show or
> > hide particular entries.
> >
> > Do you see any room for improvement? I think Calumns proposal is great
> > in terms of simplicity, but should we provide more functionality? What
> > about creating items/menus? Should this be turned into a full-fledged
> > menu editing tool or is this admin stuff we need admin tools for? Should
> > this be used for editing the preferences menu as well?
> >
> > [1]
> > http://manny.cluecoder.org/packages/gnome-menu-editor/gnome-menu-editor-0.1.tar.gz
> > [2] http://manny.cluecoder.org/packages/gnome-menu-editor/README
> > [3]
> > http://manny.cluecoder.org/packages/gnome-menu-editor/screenshot-0.1.png
>
> I think that should probably be Reset rather than Default (I see you
> copied [4] so I blame Calum), otherwise looks great.
>
> I'm trying to think of an excuse for this to be an application window
> rather than a dialog because I always like having the option to maximise a
> window and make the most of the available space. If you are considering
> turning it into a full application anyway perhaps this will serve
> encouragement and one more reason to do so.
>
> Does the list get sorted when you click on the column heading? (I do see
> that the titles are already sorted alphabetically anyway, so this is only
> a minor point).
> Presumably things like drag and drop reordering, and the ability to move
> more than one item at a time and other things like that will come later?
> I'd be happy to file bugzilla requests if you like.
>
>
> Sincerely
>
> Alan Horkan
> http://advogato.org/person/AlanHorkan/
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 20:31:55 +0100
> From: Christian Neumair
> Subject: Re: [Usability] any menu editor suggestions?
> To: Alan Horkan
> Cc: usability gnome org
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> Am Montag, den 28.02.2005, 18:44 +0000 schrieb Alan Horkan:
> > On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, Christian Neumair wrote:
> >
> > > Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 17:45:30 +0100
> > > From: Christian Neumair
> > > To: usability gnome org
> > > Subject: [Usability] any menu editor suggestions?
> > > [...]
> > > Do you see any room for improvement?
>
> > > [1]
> > >
> > http://manny.cluecoder.org/packages/gnome-menu-editor/gnome-menu-editor-0.1.tar.gz
> > > [2] http://manny.cluecoder.org/packages/gnome-menu-editor/README
> > > [3]
> > > http://manny.cluecoder.org/packages/gnome-menu-editor/screenshot-0.1.png
>
> > Does the list get sorted when you click on the column heading? (I do see
> > that the titles are already sorted alphabetically anyway, so this is only
> > a minor point).
> > Presumably things like drag and drop reordering,
>
> This looks contradictory. What to do if the user displays multiple
> directories at once and wants to sort the column? We have to decide
> whether the display order affects the actual menu layout order.
>
> > and the ability to move
> > more than one item at a time and other things like that will come later?
> > I'd be happy to file bugzilla requests if you like.
>
> Of course, feel free to do so. I'd appreciate it :). Note that there is
> not yet any bugzilla component for gnome-menu-editor, so you'd have to
> create a new one. It would really be nice if you could handle that.
> I'll most likely import gnome-menu-editor into GNOME CVS today.
>
> I'd still like to know whether this is meant to be turned into a
> full-fledged menu editor, which would allow adding application launchers
> and other nifty things, or whether it should provide only very basic
> functionality. I already received some private mail with proposals on
> more sophisticated functions, we have to be sure on how this app should
> look when it has reached 1.0 first, though.
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 12:14:14 +0100
> From: maarten menheere
> Subject: Re: [Usability] User centered redesign of desktop preferences
> To: usability gnome org
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> Sorry for the late response. I've been a bit busy lately moving back
> to my parents after successfully completing university. I would like
> it if addressed me with master from now on :).
>
> On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 00:14:33 +0100 (CET), Reinout van Schouwen
> wrote:
> > On Thu, 24 Feb 2005, Maarten wrote:
> >
> > >> Should this also contain for instance the sound-juicer sound profile?
> > >
> > > Well it could.
> >
> > Nice, I'm curious about new mockups!
> In tha works :) , and looking for some competition on that front. Yes
> this is a challenge to do better
>
> > > http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/introduction.html
> >
> > Could you give a short explanation of what this does? That page does't
> > make things very clear to me.
>
> The link was an example of a dedicated user community, in this case
> revolving around creating music. It would be really nice if they could
> record desktop wide settings and package this like other music related
> programs on their site. Maybe, Sabayon could fit into this. In this
> way music artist can work together to create the ultimate music artist
> desktop. Not every artist should have to do this again and again for
> themselves. I don't have a very good view of how a music artist
> desktop would look, this would be best left to music artist I guess,
> but surely a music artist desktop should look and behave different
> from the desktop of a 16 year old school girl (example).
>
> > > Yes I should shouldn't I :). I guess I will now :)
> >
> > Good boy. ;-)
> Good boy, master for you that is. This could be come confusing
> rather quickly :)
>
> Ahhem, Woof :)
> > > place. The added benefit would be that not every file sharing capability
> > > ifolder, smb, nfs gets it's own control center menu item. I would
> > > consider that a bit of a disaster really.
> >
> > Agreed. If you finish this, perhaps post it to bugzilla too so it won't
> > be forgotten.
>
> Ok, will do.
>
> > > Example. I don't think you should lock-in smtp settings to evolution
> > > because there could be more programs that want to make use of mail
> > > sending capabilities.
> >
> > Agree completely - but currently Evolution is still quite monolithic,
> > unfortunately. I hope the Novell people will agree to move these prefs
> > out of Evo.
>
> by god yes :)
>
> > regards,
> >
> > --
> > Reinout van Schouwen
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