On Sun, 2009-07-12 at 00:29 +0200, Pavel Rojtberg wrote:
> The problem with developing a new UI is that it takes time and the
> upstream version freeze is already close for Ubuntu 9.10.
> From an application developer POV I would rather try to push tracker
> 0.7 into Ubuntu than developing a new UI.
> Since then I can start using the full potential of tracker.
> Right now I am using the SqlQuery method with really hacky queries since
> what I really need is the SparQL interface...
> On 10.07.2009 20:12, Michael Lissner wrote:
> > I'm not nearly as involved as all you are in this project, but I linger
> > around on the list to cast opinions about when something catches my eye,
> > as this has.
> > I can say that as a (somewhat lay) user of Tracker, the UI is about as
> > bad as Martyn says - it works, but barely. My impression was that the
> > 0.7 release was supposed to be something big; something for the
> > community to be excited about. I can understand the desire to push it
> > out the door, but if the idea is to release a major version number, and
> > for it to be a big deal, doing so lacking a UI to leverage it seems like
> > folly to me.
> > I agree that we shouldn't try to push the community too much (as Phillip
> > says, I think), and that going with the flow is a good thing, but I
> > really hope we don't release such a poor tracker UI when the
> > architecture has been made so wonderously powerful underneath.
> > My 2 cents...
> > Mike
> > Jamie McCracken wrote on 07/10/2009 04:11 AM:
> >> I started looking at fixing the UIs yesterday so hopefully should have
> >> them fixed this weekend or early nest week-I might need to bug some of
> >> you for improved sparql suport
> >> Please dont release til we have them!
> >> There also a number of things missing
> >> Metadata rank weights-should be in ontology but they are not
> >> I wrote the fts rank funtion but it needs to be use the correct metadata
> >> weight and be exposed by spqarql so I can order results by rank
> >> the rank function simply sums (weight * number of occurences) as fts
> >> stores the positions and hence we known number of occurrences in the
> >> index
> >> for search tool I also need FTS snippets function to be exposed by
> >> sparql (its in fts and I modded it to be efficient)
> >> The above is needed by search tool so I cant finish that off until that
> >> is done. No doubt there will be other issues as I fix the Uis that
> >> require mods to sparql
> >> I also think we need the Events (onto, storage and possibly dbus) to be
> >> added to that list. I can add it to the file indexer to store file
> >> histories during indexing once its in our onto.
> >> I would like to eliminate the Zeitgeist daemon as what they want to do
> >> is most inefficient - get relevant data from tracker to a python
> >> middleware process and forward it on to clients. IOW their daemon acts
> >> like a wrapper around tracker and is therefore redundant not to mention
> >> bad design!!! They should use a c lib if they want to wrap tracker not a
> >> python daemon!
> >> Also we should get tracker into Gnome within 6 months so clients can go
> >> straight to tracker for metadata, tags, events etc
> >> jamie
> >> On Fri, 2009-07-10 at 11:00 +0100, Martyn Russell wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>> This year there has been a lot of talk around tracker which is really
> >>> good to see and also some applications like zeitgeist are interested in
> >>> using it too.
> >>> Through the week, I have been thinking about what is left to do before
> >>> we can start releasing the 0.7 unstable versions.
> >>> I started a wiki page with the details and have started working on some
> >>> of these already. If anyone has anything to add, please do so.
> >>> http://live.gnome.org/Tracker/Roadmap
> >>> After speaking to the rest of the team (we estimate) we could release
> >>> within a month or so.
> >>> This largely depends on the UI too. Right now we are considering
> >>> releasing the unstable versions without any UIs and to work on those
> >>> during the 0.7 releases. Jamie has elected to get started on those in
> >>> the next few weeks.
> >>> --
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Martyn
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